Sunday, February 19, 2012

Winston-Salem Journal LTE SU 02/19/12


The prayer fight
Could the U.S. Supreme Court's summary denial of Forsyth County's cert petition have to do with these very same issues and arguments having been litigated repeatedly, for decades, in jurisdictions all over America, culminating in the same outcome?
Predictably, the losers (no pun intended) profess surprise and dismay and view themselves as righteous victims of malevolent, godless liberals, biased, gullible media and incompetent, activist judges. Like all victims, they deny that they could have done anything wrong, or that their opponents could have anything right. There is nothing they need do but await the day when everyone finally hears them and "gets it." For them, like for all victims, the conflict is the solution.
I sincerely offer them something to ponder: They are right. We aren't listening. We stop listening precisely when we liberals begin to make better arguments for conservatives' own positions than conservatives themselves could make. When we can make more sense out of their positions than they can make, how are they relevant?
Anybody with intellectual honesty knows conservatives are not wrong about everything. Any time you get two smart people thinking, you will get different opinions. But they also know conservatives are in a prolonged funk, indulging militant ignorance and outright bigotry and wallowing in tired, fatuous, ideological drivel.
America needs conservatives to snap out of it and come up with new, genuinely conservative ideas and arguments with intellectual and existential power. Every real liberal out there is pulling for them to do just that. Jesus surely is.

ANDY G. MILLER
Kernersville
Spiritual students needed
High-school student Joshua Llodrat, who describes himself as a "big-government liberal Democrat," ("Students tackle tough topics in N.C.," Feb. 2), is a reminder that big government is detrimental to our political freedoms. Cuba, Communist Russia and China, as with the Holy Roman Empire and Islamic dictatorships and socialistic nations, demonstrate the authoritarian controls of big/dominating governments. They provide for basic needs of a select group of people and require submission to their leaders. Democracies are not much better, as Henrik Ibsen revealed in his play "An Enemy of the People," and their failures are revealed by partisan politics in our Congress as well as groups walking out of state assemblies because they do not get handouts from government. The answer to people's needs is not "bigger" government of endless executive orders replacing freedom with totalitarian regulations.
We need citizens devoted to the Lord of all, as Martin Luther King contended, and is expressed in our Declaration of Independence, supported by a bill of rights providing basic human freedoms that endorse the commonwealth without requiring religious affiliations. Therefore, citizens must be reared in homes of spiritual devotion with personal accountability and productive behavior in economic affairs. This is lacking in societies where secularism replaces God with government. Government assumes care for selected groups of people, gains their support and manipulates behavior, as secular-minded leaders endorse abortions, sexual promiscuity and favoritism. This history of political control repeats itself where secular liberalism promotes socialized government for sustenance, but fails in preserving human freedom.

JIM HELVEY
Winston Salem
Sum it up
Do you think Americans are too obsessed with the untimely deaths of celebrities?
Respond to letters@wsjournal.com and put "Sum It Up" in the subject header. Only signed entries, please, no anonymous ones. Briefer responses receive preference in print.

CORRESPONDENT OF THE WEEK


Purse power
I agree totally with your Feb. 1 editorial, "Trees lose out to billboards." That is why I am not going into the politics that caused this farce to be enacted. Your editorial said it all. I hope those who may have missed it will scroll back, read and think. Those who did read it, please chime in.
As my husband and I travel the highways of our beautiful state when the warm weather returns (if we can afford the gas), we will be looking for the chainsaw crews clear-cutting the public-owned trees that block the precious billboard advertising. We used to read: A Hotel 6 at Exit 6 ... 6 miles. A discount at Baloney's, with free drinks with a Bisa card, at Exit 11. Come see our pretty girls who fight in the mud after 12 a.m. with a Bastacard. Exit 12, hurry!
As we travel our roads and highways, I will be jotting down the names of the advertisers on these billboards who are killing our trees, and we will boycott them. Why? Because that is the only way to get the message across. No revenue. Get it?

PATRICIA STOCKMEISTER
Winston-Salem

120 comments:

  1. LTE #2...Speaking of big Dominus government with authoritarian controls and totalitarian regulations: "We need citizens devoted to the Lord of all,...Therefore, citizens must be reared in homes of spiritual devotion." Must: to be obliged or bound to by an imperative requirement. No freedom there. Also, I noticed you left out some of the biggest dominating governments of all, Imperial England, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, remember all those anointed ones. So devotion to the Lord of all: Judaism, Christianity, Islam, they all worship the God of Abraham, which would you suggest?

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  2. Americans saw where compassionate born again conservatism took us between 2000 and 2008 and we didn't like it.

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  3. Jim Helvey is a reminder that big financial institutions are detrimental to our financial freedoms. JP Morgan Chase (where Mr. Helvey was a manager), Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Morgan Stanly, Wells Fargo, demonstrate the authoritarian economic controls of big dominating financial institutions. They provide for the basic wildest desires of a select group of people, the.0.1%, and require bail outs and golden parachutes for it's leaders.

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  4. "But they also know conservatives are in a prolonged funk, indulging militant ignorance and outright bigotry and wallowing in tired, fatuous, ideological drivel."

    Andy Miller

    What a surprise! Here's yet another liberal that thinks he knows everything.

    Let's see: He got in bigot, dumb, outdated thinking, and hatefilled innuendos towards conservatives-all in one sentence.

    I'm just glad liberals are so 'tolerant' of other people's viewpoints, otherwise, there's no telling what he would have said.

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    1. The KKK lives on vicariously through liberals.

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    3. yes, how true, no telling what he might have said, he might have called them skanks.

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    5. The world is full of skanks, gay and hetero. Again: opinion, not fact.

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    6. bigot, dumb, outdated thinking, and hatefilled innuendos, those are the facts, and you insist on using them daily.

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    7. that's certainly true, LaSombra. I mean 50% of marriages end in divorce. The other 50% just haven't been caught yet.

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    8. Addendum to my 1010hrs: . . . female and male.

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    9. Skankdom has no boundaries, it's universal.

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    10. Based on the facts relating to sexually transmitted diseases, there are more gay male skanks than heterosexual skanks.

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    11. The world according to . . . ?

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    12. Anon, there is a a very high percentage of herpes among college-age people, perhaps 25%. Most is spread by heterosexual activity.

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  5. A gay Republican sheriff is in the hot seat for banging his illegal boyfriend, and then threatening to deport him.

    You don't have to be a liberal Democrat to make bad decisions.

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    1. A bad night out, can lead to some bad outcomes, from bad encounters, with bad people and their bad.....

      http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/az-sheriff-quits-romney-campaign-after-ex-boyfriends-accusations/

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    2. Reminds me of a heterosexual I know who boffed his secretary, then later fired her.

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  6. Do you think Americans are too obsessed with the untimely deaths of celebrities? Yes, happened with Elvis and many more. It's who we are. It's easy and requires little from us while feeding the current sewer culture we are living in. All the while, our country is circling the drain through which all dying nations pass.

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    1. I was a teenager when Buddy Holly died. My friends and I were huge jazz, blues, and rhythm and blues fans, so recognized Holly as the real thing, a talented singer/songwriter who was in the process of advancing American music.

      So we had a wake where we played all of Holly's songs over and over. Then we moved on.

      Some years ago I happened to be at a conference at the University of Memphis in mid-August. I had heard about the huge annual gathering there on the anniversary of Elvis's death.

      This time I got to see parts of it. It's a pretty disgusting spectacle...a bunch of so-called adults weeping and wailing as if they had just lost their first born in some terrible accident. Jeez, come on folks...he was just a very polite boy from Mississippi who also happened to be a very talented singer who also died young because he couldn't handle success. Besides, Carl Perkins' version of "Blue Suede Shoes" is much better.

      We used to have a holiday for the birthdays of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. There were programs and festivities to commemorate the President who made the USA and the one who saved it.

      Now we just have President's Day, merely another excuse for retailers to have a sale.

      Circling the drain is right.

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    2. I think Buddy would have been as big as Elvis had he lived. I've only been by Graceland a couple of times and once the scene was garish. Ditto Perkins, a talent who was lost in the wake of too many Rock a Billy types in his day.

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    3. Good PM, and amen to the comments in this subthread. Mrs. Stab and her elder daughter watched Houston's funeral yesterday. I couldn't understand why it was televised. Besides, the celebration was late. She died when she started hanging around rapper Brown.

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    4. WW, I am also a big rockabilly fan.

      You can hear some terrific rockabilly outdoors free every July 4 weekend while watching the mud wrestling behind the Millennium Center after the car show on Saturday afternoon.

      Ten years ago, the car show barely covered a block. Last year it extended along Trade Street from 5th to 9th (MLK Ave) and overflowed into all the side streets and the sidewalk in front of the Millennium. Some cool motorcycles too.

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  7. What have you done for me lately? Here's what Obama has done during his presidency:

    1: The U.S., national debt is $15.2 trillion, debit for citizen is near $ 50,000.
    2: The federal government recorded a total budget deficit of $1.3 trillion in fiscal year 2011
    3: America spent $1.2 trillion in interest on the debt..
    4: On the economic front, 2. million jobs have been lost.
    5: More than 2.4 million homes were repossessed for failure to pay mortgages.
    6: The jobless rate has been at or above 9 percent .
    7: Thirty-seven states have higher unemployment rates.
    8: About 50 million Americans are on food stamps.
    9: Gas prices are up by more than 80 percent.
    10: The United States lost its top AAA credit rating

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    1. I can't wait for another four years of misery.

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    2. As always...neatly cut and pasted, this time from the Examiner website, or one of its many copycats.

      Zero has no idea what any of this means, just as those who posted it in the first place. Merely more mindless drivel.

      Oh, and that should be "...debt per citizen..."

      When you copy/paste, you copy your source's illiteracy as well.

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    3. I'm glad you read the facts that I quoted. That won't stop you from being a moron on election day, however.

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    4. P.S. You never did answer whether or not 'drag queens' can get married under the new marriage laws in several states. They should make wonderful role models for children, right?

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    5. some would, some wouldn't. One of the finest drag queens I ever knew swam on the UNC swim team, went to Duke Divinity school and was a youth minister at a Methodist Church.

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    6. Careful, Bob...you might make poor little zero's head explode.

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    7. with the vacuum it contains, I might think it would implode.

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    8. Considering all the things that cause anon angst, I'd say a lifetime of misery lies ahead, not just 4 more years.

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    9. Thanks LaSombra. lol, I was serious about the drag queen. He was an all ACC swimmer besides being ac/dc.

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    10. There are plenty of lgbt folks competing at all levels of all amateur and professional sports...I expect that Zero, the NHL and Major League Baseball will be the last to accept that fact.

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    12. The Chola has been here all along. The name calling started when you couldn't come up with a rational response to the discussion !!

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    13. rational: adjective, having reason or understanding

      synonyn: agreeable to reason, intelligent, logical, reasonable, sensible

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    15. Why is it bothering you . . .

      . . . all of a sudden?

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    16. No big deal Chola.....keep making a fool out of yourself. You do a good job at it.

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    17. If it's no big deal why'd you bring up "the picture", Tim?

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    18. I've told you over and over Chola, that I'm not Tim. That's the only reason. But you can't seem to get that through your thick skull.

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    19. You brought up the subject of the picture. I didn't even mention the name Tim until you started the name calling, . . .

      . . .Tim.

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    20. Chola....post it all you want. It just reminds everybody what a fool you are FYI.

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    21. Here's the timeline, Tim:

      LaSombra Feb 19, 2012 10:10 AM (My first post, to no one in particular. No names, no name calling.)

      Some time later:
      Anonymous, Feb 19, 2012 11:29 AM: "The Chola just showed up. You gotta rep your COUNTRY! Gotta rep that PR BABY!

      That's what you gotta DO!"
      My response @11:29AM "The Chola has been here all along. The name calling started when you couldn't come up with a rational response to the discussion !!"

      Two more comments from me, one at 12:02 and another at 1:24pm, still doesn't contain any disrespectful language.

      Then at 1:24pm:
      "Anonymous Feb 19, 2012 01:24 PM

      Chola.....you can keep posting that picture all you want. I'll just keep calling you the fool/Chola that you are."


      It's all there for you, Tim.

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    23. So let's see your version of the timeline.

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  8. There must be 3-4 dozen goldfinches outside my window feeding today. My feeder has 16 perches and they are just waiting in line.

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    1. It means snow!! Do you feel a need to make a mad dash for the grocery store for milk and bread?

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    2. Hmm, I do need to get some biscuits.

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    3. WW was right. We got about 1/20th of an inch on the roof downtown.

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    4. Here it comes again. We may be up to 1/15th of an inch soon.

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  9. It's good thing for gay and lesbians that Perdue decided not to run for governor. Otherwise, the marriage amendment would pass easily.

    Here's a website for everybody that wants to get on the right side of the issue.

    http://christianactionleague.org/news/vote-for-marriage-nc-is-the-official-campaign/

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  10. Good PM, again folks. Please take note that I have deleted some comments that were of useless bad taste and intended to be personally hurtful. Anon, I have made it clear recently what is tolerable.

    You have made several references to criminal and deviant behavior by gay people. I note in the news that Elizabeth Smart got married. Remember her? She was kidnapped, held prisoner, and raped by a heterosexual. Remember Ted Bundy: heterosexual. When I lived in CA, there were several high profile kidnappings, rapes, and murders of young girls by . . . heterosexuals. Locally, we read all too frequently of the sexual misconduct of teachers involving minors of the opposite sex.

    Although OT considers this irrelevant for holding office, heterosexual Presidents have also been abusers, most notably the overrated JFK and Willard Clinton.

    Your citing of sexual abuse by gay people as evidence of anything more than individual human fallibility is simple an artless effort at venting your bigotry. And I will continue to delete such references, and any similar hurtful references, like "sexual skanks," that are directed at my friends, the other posters here. You should be ashamed of yourself. Your are an embarrassment to trollery.

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    1. I've worked directly with and for gay and lesbians. I've lived in a neighborhood primarily occupied by gay and lesbians. So don't tell me their aberrant sexual conduct and world view are not carried over into their personal and professional lives.

      Like I told Bobby, if you don't like the facts, get people to change their behavior. I feel no shame for telling the truth. Do you feel shame for trying to suppress it?

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    2. Asking someone to change who they are doesn't work . . . Tim.

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    3. Chola....gay men have long been very sexually active, that was my point.

      Do you use a sharpie for you eye liner, or do you just shave 'em off?

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    4. " __________ men have long been very sexually active . . ."

      Fill in the blank with the word heterosexual, and guess what . . . ?

      Does the statement apply to you, or are you not a heterosexual male?

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    5. Perhaps if heterosexual men weren't so sexually active, there would be far fewer unwanted pregnancies.

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    6. There are half a dozen "gentleman's clubs" along Peters Creek Parkway open 7 day a week that have lunch crowds.

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    7. I think we all know what Zero is. Endless studies have pointed out the "roots" of extreme homophobia.

      Not long ago he was telling us how he sometimes hung out with the movers and shakers of the black community and the Latino community, both laughable assertions.

      Now he has lived in the LGBT barrio (which doesn't exist, BTW) as well. Since he hates blacks, Latinos, LGBTs and women, to name a few, I guess he has always lived a pretty miserable life.

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    8. He has ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE how moronic he, and his statements sound.

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    9. There's a gentleman's club just down the street from where he lives.

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    10. Cumberland and Onslow Counties used to have the highest rates of std's in this state, not really gay meccas, but lot's of trailers with "massage" in neon lights. Fayetteville and Jacksonville would be the county seats, Bucky, you like the truth, well here some truth, as long as heterosexuals have sex, there will be gay people, so live with it.

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    11. "Now he has lived in the LGBT barrio (which doesn't exist, BTW)"

      I know a lot of gay people who live in Ardmore, but I assume that's just good taste on their part. It's a really cool neighborhood nowadays...middle class aesthetic mixed with an artsy, bohemian vibe.

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    12. Having a top notch teaching hospital in the neighborhood draws a very diverse population,faculty, med students, interns, residents, fellows from all over the world.

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    13. I lived in an L.A. suburb, worked variously in South Pasadena and Pasadena. I traveled extensively around the city itself, going to places like Venice Beach and West Hollywood, the latter being a community with a large gay population. And yes, I worked with and for gay folk. Never once did I observe any behavior that distinguished them from their fellow humans in Los Angeles County. I am familiar with the Ardmore area, as well, have yet to see any but the most prosaic behavior. I must not get out much.

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    14. Stab, I guess you've missed out on the weekly LGBT orgies on Hawthorne, just across from the Methodist church. Sometimes they spill out into the church parking lot...twisting the night away with Chubby Checker. Naughty, naughty.

      And don't forget the monthly bash at the American Legion post on Miller Street. Somebody told me that they play Bingo there. Imagine that!

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    15. If you've never seen them arrive on buses and in cabs to designated (via the internet) public bathrooms to bang with complete strangers, you really haven't lived in a gay community.

      When you walk into some bathrooms, you can see where they have left little pieces of tissue paper lying all over the floor from their 'activities'. It's disgusting.

      That's why I call some of them sexual skanks.

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    16. It's strange how Arthur thinks everybody in this forum have only lived in Forsyth County all of their lives. I guess with people like Rush posting, it kinda makes sense.

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  11. Housekeeping note:

    I went into Settings to try to correct post time stamps. The site was and is set for Eastern Time. Why it's 3 hours off is a mystery to me.

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    1. No problem, according to the site time, I have the entire afternoon ahead of me!

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  12. Is there a union representing "trollery"?

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    1. It's no wonder you are in the Democratic Party.

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    2. Whitewall...what's up with you? And I've always liked you.

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    3. And the Democratic Party is supposed to be a bad thing ? ? ?

      My political affiliation is, actually, "Unaffiliated". See for yourself . . .

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    4. Anon...I appreciate it. My comment was the only humorous thing I could think of. But now that you have asked me, let me say, I, along with others, don't care for the default subject you constantly go to. We've all got it. In addition I personally don't like verbal assaults of any kind on women. I don't like excessive crudeness in the presence of women - even if they are not ones you know personally or have ever seen. If a woman does it to you, as a man, you are not compelled to reply in kind. These are things I am personally tired of and don't appreciate even though I have never met any of the women here or would possibly participate here. You can do me a favor - avoid addressing me if you must persist in doing what I have described.

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    5. Okay whitewall...I won't address you anymore.

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    6. But you might want to look up 'skank'. You're obviously behind the times.

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    7. Anon, you are behind the times. My mother taught me manners in the 1950s. Yours appears to have been unsuccessful or neglectful in that regard.

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    8. Come on Stab, let's not put the blame on his momma. As my grandmother was famous for saying "There's just no teaching some younguns." I believe that I was sometimes the youngun being referred to.

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    9. Yes, I'm sure it didn't take long for his parents to realize their bad night out, led to a bad decision, resulting in a bad outcome.

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    10. 'Skank' is protected speech. There's already a court case on it. Ask the resident wanna be lawyer, Rush, about it.

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    11. Not necessarily in this court.

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    12. Looks like to me other people are using it as much or more than I am.

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  13. Yes, there is, unsure of acronym, but I'll figure it out.

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  14. Subject change: I noted in FR's LTE's, I think, that an LTE writer mentioned Whitney Houston's passing, then dug at conservatives by saying they would critize the media's coverage of her. I am more of a wishy-washy centrist than a conservative, but I tend to view the media as more or less biased to the left. But, I'm not sure how conservatives or other media-suspicious types would have wanted Houston covered. I would be curious what distinguishes non-PC coverage of the singer from PC coverage. As for wishy-washy me, my position is that of Rhett Butler.

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  15. Another subject change: Citizens United is a popular whipping boy in this forum, but I note that the ACLU and the one-time scourge of Wall Street, Elliot Spitzer, support the decision.

    I, of course, support it as well. I note the horror at corporate (but not union) involvement in politics here. However, I am sure that most of those thoughtful folks who post here favor freedom of the press, also a Bill of Rights guarantee.

    I do, too. But, what is the press today? Corporations, my friends, with vast audiences in some cases. And they can and do influence elections. Years ago, Hillary Clinton fussed over the "60 Minutes" interview of then-candidate Clinton and Hillary. She said the segment had shown her husband in a bad light, because the (actually sympathetic) interviewer asked a question about their marriage, which the interviewer let Willard weasel out an answer. Producer Don Hewitt said the show had actually tried to make Willard look as good as possible (including staging a phony accident so Willard could protectively shield Hillary).

    The point is that prior to CU, unions and specific corporations (whose news gatherers and presenters are often union members) could politic as they wished. Now, the field is more level, and unions' and the media's influence is diluted. Sounds fairer to me.

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  16. Back to the usual: I would like Anon to tell me how gays marrying takes one penny out of his pocket; how what they do in private is any of his business; and why this issue takes precedence over many other matters domestic and foreign.

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    1. Stab....encouraging deviant homosexual behavior will increase the HIV infection rate, which will in turn make my health insurance rates go up. Got anymore questions?

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    2. Yes. How does monogamous behavior increase infection rates?

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    3. No group is completely monogamous, so you question is moot.

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    4. Then the problem is general, so your concern should be re all marriages. But, in general, married couples have fewer partners than trolling singles,

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    5. So what's your problem with marriage, since it reduces promiscuity.

      Nighty night, all. I am on the inclement weather team, must report early, in order to cover for liars who use the weather as an excuse to sleep in.

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  17. I, for one, have had about as much as I can take of this stupid "chola" crap. The person who uses the term is terminally ignorant on almost any subject, as proven by his own endlessly monotonous parrot-like posts, primarily cut and pasted from a number of questionable websites.

    So I thought that as long as we are going to be barraged by the term, maybe we should actually know something about it.

    The origin of "cholo" is in the Nahuatl family of languages of Aztec origin. Nahuatl is still spoken in scattered communities of the Americas and has been used to produce literary works. Nahuatl has given us many common words such as tomato, chili, coyote, avocado and chocolate.

    The original word was Xoloitzcuintli (X pronounced as a blend of "sh" and "ch"), meaning simply "native" or "indigenous". It is also the name of a breed of Mexican hairless dog which was very popular in the Aztec and Mayan cultures.

    The Spaniards, the original KKK in the New World, quickly adapted the word "cholo/chola" as a pejorative for any of the native inhabitants that they came in contact with in the Americas. It is still used in that manner throughout much of South America, especially in Chile and Peru, the two countries that I am most familiar with, where Spanish blood is still considered of a higher order than indigenous blood.

    But in recent times it has taken on new meaning along the Mexican border and in the US Southwest, probably simply an adaptation applied to male gang members describing them as "bad" people. In those areas, "chola" has an even more specialized meaning. A chola is a girl or woman who hangs out with cholos.

    In East Los Angeles, where I have spent some time, and perhaps elsewhere, there is even a special "chola look" which is characterized by plucked eyebrows replaced by pencilled or tattooed eyebrows, heavy eye makeup and heavy applications of brightly colored lipstick. Nasal, eyebrow, eyelid and other facial piercings are common, but optional. Of course, as always with any dramatic look, young girls who have no gang affiliations often copy this look.

    The first time I ever heard the word used was in East LA in the 1960s. I asked a guy what it meant and he said "gang whore". I think that there is more to it than that, but when you see that word in one of you-know-who's posts, you'll at least have a better idea than he does of what it means and where it comes from.

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    1. What's funny is that La Sombra called me a 'Cholo' first. But you, being the moron that you are, didn't notice that, did you?

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    2. That doesn't really matter, fool.

      As discussed below, your thinking is at or below 3 year old level.

      "She said it first!" "Did not." "Did so." "Did not."

      You are beneath contempt. Your momma should have smacked you across the room a couple of times. Then maybe you would have become a real man instead of a simpering crybaby. Grow up!

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    3. Speaking of growing up, I'm not the one doing all of the whining in here. I guess you wouldn't notice though.

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  18. I personally think that, as much as Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is referenced, Tim is of Venezuelan descent and knows the origins of the word.

    I think it's comical that the one time I used the term, he took the word and ran with it. It's like a 3 year old learning the word "fart" and then running around in public and saying "fart, fart, fart, fart, fart . . ."

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    1. I think that assuming that you-know-who knows the origin of anything is a bit of a stretch. 99.9% of the people living in Venezuela today do not know the origin of the word.

      And our boy has repeatedly shown that he is incapable of grasping even the most rudimentary aspects of anything having to do with human beings.

      On the other hand, I like your 3 year old analogy. I believe...I KNOW...that I did some of that myself...it is a natural part of being 3 years old. My surviving sister likes to remind me of the day when my vocabulary became 97% the "sh--" word. That lasted all of 20 minutes or so, until my mother was able to corral me and administer corrective action.

      Unfortunately, some people never make it from there to being 4 years old. We have a classic case of that here.

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    2. "I think that assuming that you-know-who knows the origin of anything is a bit of a stretch."

      Okay, you got me on that one.

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    3. Chola.....I just follow your lead.

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    4. You're wrong, Tim. I've been following your lead.

      A few months back I asked you to stop calling me, and others, names and speak of and to others with respect. You refuse to, and so I'm only doing what you do.

      You come back as Anonymouse, but you're still Buck the Schmuck.

      While you insult, denigrate, and disrespect others I'm assuming that it's acceptable to you to for me to behave in the same manner.

      SO YOU SEE, I'M FOLLOWING YOUR LEAD.

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    5. You truly have the mind of a 3yo, Tim. You go picking fights, like a school yard bully, then you cry like a baby when others call you names.

      What a moron.

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    6. Chola....why do you insist on making a fool of yourself all of the time?

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    7. Chola...I'll admit I have called you Reille and Nancy Drew, but you 'earned' those names I want you to know.

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  19. On the subject of Whitney Houston, and with reverence to her talent . . .

    "I Will Always Love You" is Dolly Parton's song, not Whitney's.

    Drives me NUTS when it's referred to as Whitney's song.

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    1. When Whitney won the Grammy for it, Dolly presented it to her.

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    2. Best Little Whore House In Texas, Miss Mona (Dolly) sang it about Sheriff Ed Earl Dodd (Bert Reynolds) but she debut the song in 1974

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    3. Whitney Houston's version was releases Nov, 3rd, 1992

      it's one of my favorite songs by both of them.

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    4. Bob, please do not mention "Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" again. Every time you do, I have a laughing fit and have to go to bed for a couple of days.

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  20. Well folks, we've done it again.

    And I'll admit up front that I am, again, one of the worst offenders.

    We have let Zero/Anonymous/Bucky/Knothead/Lowlife/Whatever hijack the forum. I don't have the time to count, but way too many of today's posts have been in response to his childish, nonsensical crap.

    A number of folks who used to post here have abandoned us, no doubt because they have better sense than to expose themselves to his crude and stupid ploys.

    If this site is to be preserved, there are two possibilities:

    1. Since Stab does not have the time to monitor the site, appoint another administrator who can delete Zero's posts before they poison the well.

    I don't like that choice, because it involves censorship, which violates the only really important right that we Americans have left, the right to free speech.

    2. My second proposal will be far more difficult, because trolls like Zero count on our human instincts to keep them going.

    Ignore all of his posts. Sounds simple, but it is not. It will require a significant amount of self control, because his posts are contrived to outrage everyone, thus prompting responses.

    The more outrageous his nonsense, the more difficult it is to ignore. But ignoring him will work, guaranteed.

    His pitiful loser ego is reinforced every time someone responds to his posts. If no one responds, he will soon abandon this site and go on to some other place where acting the fool will get results.

    I cannot emphasize how difficult this will be. If only one or two people respond to any of his posts, he may, because of his pitifully low self esteem, find that enough to stick around.

    I am especially disgusted with his "chola" shit, because I know what that really means. So I have had enough. I will be watching in hope of returning.

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    1. Chola means many different things in many different Spanish cultures, you moron. Don't try to contrive some definition of the word that you want in order to make me out to be something I'm not.

      The reason why you're whining is because I expose you for the fool that you are.

      And, by the way, please don't use curse words in here. I find them offensive.

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