Thursday, May 31, 2012

Winston-Salem Journal LTE TH 05/31/12


Constant war
One's ideologies toward the constant war in Afghanistan are definitely subject to opinion. In most cases, through controversial biases and different philosophical views, a lot of people are either extremely against the war or are entirely for the war. There is no common median. By that I mean that instead of each individual perspective coming together on similar ground, people argue when they should be more concerned about the actual war. Instead of complaining about the war, people should be more involved in preserving and conserving what we tend to overlook here in America.
We are at war with Afghanistan because Afghanistan disagrees with our way of life. The soldiers fighting abroad are protecting our way of life. We should be grateful every day for what the soldiers are doing there.
In a sense, it is a Tragedy of the Commons. People aren't realizing that by constantly bickering about whether the troops should come home or not, they are in a sense creating an even longer war. I personally feel that if it is deemed necessary that the troops should stay in Afghanistan, then they should. If they aren't needed in Afghanistan, then of course we should pull them out as quickly as possible. But as long as there is a need for defense against foreign attackers, there should always be a need for the military.
Through strife and conquest we without a doubt reign supreme against other nations, and I fully intend to keep it that way.

TERRY WUNKER
Winston-Salem
Helping riders
Under the budget proposed by Winston-Salem City Manager Lee Garrity, buses would raise their fares by 30 cents ("City plan raises property taxes," May 26). Wouldn't that adversely affect those people who ride the buses? Where is that extra 30 cents going? Is it to build much-needed roadside shelters? It certainly doesn't sound as though it will help those riders.
Isn't there some other way to collect 30 cents that would help people rather than hinder them?

ANN S. RUTTER
Pfafftown
Finish the Thought
Saturday, we asked readers to complete the sentence: "The next culture war will be over …"
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"... railing against the poor for not paying taxes.
"The GOP has successfully waged war against women by passing legislation to restrict abortion in 30 states and to reignite the debate on contraception, ban same-sex marriage via constitutional amendment and engage in voter suppression through picture ID requirements. Now several states have passed legislation to cut taxes for the rich and raise taxes for the poor. And at the national level, the GOP has repeatedly blocked the Democratic Party's initiatives to ask the rich to pay their fair share of taxes and to repeal subsidies for Big Oil.
"The rationale for making the poor pay more taxes is that if they have to pay taxes, they are less likely to ask for government handouts. However, the GOP conveniently forgets that the poor do pay payroll taxes and a high proportion of their income on sale taxes, etc."

BOON T. LEE
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"… self-responsibility."

SMITH MACK HAGAMAN
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"After the Voter ID bill is hopefully defeated, I predict the next culture war will be over the dismantling of public education. The ALEC/Art Pope gang is determined to privatize education, giving vouchers and corporate-donated (tax-exempt) scholarship money to be used at secular and parochial private schools. Not only will this create further disparity in quality education, but once again the issue of separation of church and state will arise."

ANNE GRIFFIS WILSON
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"… dismantling drug prohibition, which makes about 10 percent of the U.S. population into victimless criminals.
"Drug prohibition is based on conservative religious dogma, not medical or social science, and is thus unconstitutional. Legalizing marijuana, perhaps the safest psychoactive plant on the planet, will be the first step. The next step will be to allow chewing of coca leaves — but not use of its more dangerous extract: cocaine.
"Legal growing of Papaver somniferum poppies and use of dried poppy extract (opium) will follow.
Religious and spiritual guides will be trained to administer and monitor the "heavier" psychedelics: LSD, peyote, psylocybin, ketamine and others.
"Those few who have trouble with substance overuse will get non-judgmental professional help paid for by the high taxes on drug sales. And the world will be a better place to live without the wars, imprisonment, unjust raids, confiscations, broken families, erosion of privacy, illegal searches and deaths caused by almost 100 years of drug prohibition."

DR. JAMES S. CAMPBELL
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"... something that has nothing to do with actual culture."

JAN HUGOSSON

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  2. LTE #1... Constant War
    This is so wrong on so many levels, it's difficult choosing where to begin. We are at war IN Afghanistan, not with Afghanistan. We reign supreme through stife and conquest? And all this time, we were led to believe it was American values and exceptionalism. Perhaps you are correct, we are just big bullies and if some nation disagrees with our way of life, we'll just conquer them. That'll show em.
    "The 21st century demands U.S. leadership in crafting a balanced, secure and sustainable multipolar system. If we Americans cling to notions of unipolar dominance, the country is certain to fail. On the other hand, if in a manner true to our values, we Americans reach out to forge a global partnership to advance social inclusion, greater economic equity and planetary sustainability, we will serve both global and American interests." Stephen Heintz, President, Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Philanthropy for an Interdependent World

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  3. I swear Boon Lee is on a hormone driven mission to host the Piedmont's first Cloward-Piven dinner for the perpetually damp.

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    1. I thought the Journal would only publish one letter a month.

      How does the boob get away with it?

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  4. Dr. Campbell-your comment is reflective of someone that has lived in a sheltered portion of society if you don't realize the devastation drugs have caused to humans in general, and society as whole.

    By the way, Ketamine is generally used by homosexuals to intensify sex. Let's stamp that drug out all together. We've got enough problems with that segment of society already without adding rocket fuel to the equation. We sure don't need to legalize it!

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  5. LTE #1 – In addition to struggling mightily with the English language, Mr. Wunker seems to be viewing the world through some sort of powerful distorting lens.

    Skipping over much of his gibberish, let’s address that last part:

    “Through strife and conquest we without a doubt reign supreme against other nations, and I fully intend to keep it that way.”

    Hmm…strife…conquest…reign…supreme. Yes, in 1945 maybe, to some extent, but since then?

    Palestine: European Jews kill a bunch of Semites and take their land. We stand and watch. Big mistake.

    Korea: Tie. Still tied 60 years later. Still dangerous, too.

    Iran I: Big mistake. CIA overthrows democratically elected government because they don’t like their politics. “Shah” takes over. Guaranteed trouble down the road.

    Bay of Pigs: Humiliating loss. Extremely bad “intelligence”. JFK becomes last POTUS to actually accept the blame for something, even though the whole fiasco was created by Ike’s guys.

    Viet Nam: Loss. Extremely bad “intelligence”. Millions dead for nothing.

    Iran II: Big loss. Mullahs overthrow “Shah”. US Embassy captured. More extremely bad “intelligence”. More bad stuff coming.

    Cold War: No contest. Trillions spent, mostly due to bad “intelligence”. USSR collapses through its own incompetence.

    Gulf War: Muddle. Kuwaiti despots restored to power. Big deal.

    Afghanistan: Ongoing foolishness. More extremely bad “intelligence”. We help the Taliban throw the Russians out, eventually decide that we don’t like them either. Thousands dead. More bad stuff coming.

    Iraq: More ongoing foolishness. More extremely bad “intelligence”, and big league lying to boot. Big time chaos coming soon.

    Iran III: See Iran II. The bad stuff is here. More extremely bad “intelligence”, ours and Israel’s. Potential for WW III.

    I see plenty of “strife” here, but try as I might, cannot find a single “conquest”. As to “reigning supreme”, yes, we are certainly “reigning supreme” over a dysfunctional government and a polarized nation, both our own.

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  6. I've got another big Heeeeeee Haaaaaaaaw, for you liberals.

    Obama is bragging about his healthcare law to the Spanish speaking U.S. population. Can you believe he has the audacity to do such a thing? Particularly since he knows it's going to be overruled.

    What did he used to teach? Constitutional law? I'm just glad he isn't any smarter, he'd really pass some doozies.

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  7. Good afternoon folks!
    LTE 1: Very reminiscent of some HS classmates who would use sophisticated verbiage in an attempt to sound like they knew what they were talking about, but under scrutiny what they wrote made absolutely no sense. The war is against al-Qaida which just happened to have their operations in Afghanistan. I doubt the Afghans give one whit about our way of life. They are too busy trying to get by in a country wracked by poverty and a series of wars that stretches over 30 years. Our "way of life' actually hasn't been threatened since WWII. There is a scheduled date for the troops to cease operations in Afghanistan and come home. I must admit to being curious how Mr. Wunker intends to keep the US "reign(ing) supreme against other nations" by himself. The more I think about it, this is most likely a HS kid.
    LTE 2: If Ms. Rutter read the article, it states the increase is to "...help pay for a pilot program to run buses on Sundays, Garrity said. "We're the only major city in North Carolina that does not have a Sunday bus service. This is something people have been asking for for years." The article also mentions the increase in fuel prices as another factor. Amazing how much you learn simply by paying attention.
    Finish the thought: bloody nitwits who wish to continue these idiotic "culture wars". Lordy have mercy, will people grow up already? Some people are homosexual. Get over it. Some people have abortions. Get over it. The US Constitution prohibits sectarian govt prayer. Get over it. If you wish to live your life in a cocoon where only your ideals exist, then go found your own walled off village like Warren Jeffs did with Colorado City, AZ. I do, however suggest avoiding some of Mr. Jeffs' practices such as child rape disguised as marriage.

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    1. We're just following the president's lead. He's told us to hate rich people for being rich. We want them to pay their 'fair' share. He'll let us know how much that is when he gets around to it. Right now, he too busy raking in their money for campaign ads.

      Yes, that's why it's such a pathetic joke when Obama runs campaign ads that say, 'Estamos Unidos' in some sections of the country. I hope he doesn't think people are that big of fools.

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    2. The 2012 Bilderberg Conference opens today in Chantilly, VA. I didn't see his name on the list of those attending, but perhaps Mr. Wunker is secretly the head of the New World Order, thus has the power to keep the US reigning supreme if he so likes.

      If you want to see just how crazy your fellow Americans can get, check out this gathering of loonies:

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    3. Oops, left out the link: http://bilderberg.org/

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  8. Federal Appeals court rules DOMA unconstitutional
    http://jacksonville.com/news/national/2012-05-31/story/appeals-court-rules-doma-unconstitutional

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    1. Note that this was a unanimous decision by a three judge panel which included judges appointed by Reagan and GHW Bush.

      It could reach the Supreme Court this fall. A number of other such cases, including the California Prop 8 rulings, are also en route to the Supremes.

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    2. That ruling is next to meaningless. It's like the 9th Circuit's ruling. We'll have to wait until it gets to the Supreme Court. It's like having a bunch of chickens voting on whether or not there should be a restaurant called 'Chick Fil-A'.

      I can't wait until peeping up somebody's butt becomes illegal. It'll be interesting to see how the 1st and 9th Circuits rule on that one.

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    3. yes, we'll have to wait to see if the SC decides to hear an appeal. It could go the way of sectarian prayer.

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    4. I wonder if they will re-try Edwards?

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    5. They'll retry him, it's too high profile not to. Besides, they know they had at least 6 Democrats on the jury. There's no surprise to the outcome. In fact, it met my prediction almost to the 'T'.

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    6. It's the tax laws that are unconstitutional regarding gay marriage or not allowing them. There's no right to marriage in the constitution.

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    7. One thing we know. If Obama supports a law, it's probably unconstitutional. So his recent support for gay marriage may not be a good thing.

      Obama is not too smart. Remember when he publicly insulted the Supreme Court? It's like telling your boss how stupid he is, and then asking for a raise. Most people have better a higher level of sophistication at that level.

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    8. That's true, but in Loving v Virginia(1967) and Skinner v Oklahoma (1942), the Supreme Court ruled that marriage is a civil right.

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    9. It's highly unlikely the Supreme Court would overturn the fundamental premise that marriage is a civil right.

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    10. not at all like telling your boss, that's ridiculous, they are co-equals,

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    12. One thing "WE" know? Speak for yourself. I mean: BuckyMay 29, 2012 9:46 AM
      The Company Mitt Keeps: Donald Trump

      Headline by ABC News

      Have you ever seen a similar headline about Obama? Noooooo!
      If you are wrong on simple things like that, how could anyone trust you to be right on more complex issues. HA!~!

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    13. If you want to read about not too smart?
      A "serpent-handling" West Virginia pastor died after his rattlesnake bit him during a church ritual, just as the man had apparently watched a snake kill his father years before.
      http://news.yahoo.com/serpent-handling-west-virginia-pastor-dies-snake-bite-173406645--abc-news-topstories.html?bcmt=1338467438357-c7e426c4-fdc3-44aa-8b4a-708a7ecaef03&bcmt_s=u#ugccmt-container-b

      A timber rattlesnake no less.

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    14. You'd think they'd have anti-venom on hand at least.

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    15. Arthur, having anti-venom on hand would defeat the point of the exercise. Having seriously misinterpreted some obscure bible verse, the snake handlers have decided to test god's word.

      They know that they are going to get bitten, but the point is that god will love them enough to save them. Most snake handlers have been bitten dozens of times and can show you the scars to prove it. But each time, god saved them, or so they think.

      What they fail to recognize is that those bites were on their hands or forearms and were only partial bites, nicks in which the fangs did not penetrate deeply, so little venom was transferred. That gives them a false sense of security.

      Obviously this timber rattler got his teeth fully into a major vein. The only cure for that is immediate treatment at a properly equipped hospital. God has nothing to do with it.

      Jesus said more than once not to test god. Anyone who does is simply a fool.

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    16. nd these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues. They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. (Mark 16:17-18)

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    17. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. (Luke 10:19)

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    18. Yep, that's the verse. Every snake handling preacher can quote it to you without having to look it up. There are preachers who drink poison as well. If they get just the right dose, it gives them enormous power over their congregants, which is what all of this is about. Of course, every now and then, they get a milligram too much. Then they become martyrs and saints. For the simple-minded, everything, even abject failure, can be explained away.

      When a good christian is involved in a terrible accident but survives it is a "miracle" and evidence of god's love. When they die, god has a "plan" for them.

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    19. That's my fancy pants Johns Hopkins education I guess...if there's a good chance you'll get bitten by a poisonous snake, have an antidote on hand if you can help it.

      God loves me, but he gave me a brain to think with too.

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    20. strychnine I think is their poison of choice.

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    21. Not too far removed from Jim Jones, who was actually an atheist in addition to being a total sociopath.

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    22. One doesn't have to look very far (just scroll up a bit) to realize that not all humans have evolved at the same pace.

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    23. And that treading part gets a workout as well. A popular riff involves showing the congregants a box half full of writhing, deadly serpents, at which point the preacher thrusts his leg into the box and "treads" upon them.

      There is an old joke about that. The preacher is doing his thing and one congregant says "That is an awesome display that the preacher has the power of god." The other congregant replies "Yep, and it also is an awesome display of the little known fact that he has a wooden leg."

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    24. I hope no punishment was visited upon the belly-crawling sinner that bit him.

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    25. Just goes to prove, there are not too many pentecostals in the world, just not enough snakes.

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    26. Oh my, the clouds got awfully dark on that one.

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    27. Yep, just saw a lightning flash downtown, probably headed your way.

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    28. I see church steeples all the time with lightening rods. What? Lack of confidence?

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    29. Ha, ha! When we were kids, my sisters and I used to count the lightning rods on long road trips. You got 2 points for a house or barn, but only 1 for a church because almost every church had one.

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    30. Stab, like you, my first thought was for the poor belly-crawling sinner. Especially in light of that verse in Luke about treading.

      Is there a serpent heaven? And if so, being limbless, how do they strum their harps? Maybe with their tails?

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  9. As always, Buck boy is a vast fount of ignorance, lies and wishful thinking.

    1. Buck boy did not in any way predict the outcome of this trial.
    2. No one knows the political affiliation of any of the jurors. During voire dire, jurors are rarely asked directly about political affiliation.
    3. This case was initially brought because it was high profile, but that reason has been served. Prosecutors will now decide whether or not to retry based on other considerations.
    4. The basic consideration will be that the jurors were asked to perform an impossible task...that of reading another person's mind. And of course, they couldn't do it. The best legal minds in the country have been predicting that outcome ever since the charges were brought.
    5. At every step of the trial, the prosecution got considerable help from the judge, from her exclusion of critical defense evidence to her charge to the jury.
    6. In that light, barring new, incontrovertible evidence,the prosecutors are highly unlikely to attempt a second trial.

    What John Edwards did to his wife and the American political process was abominable. But being abominable is not against the law. If it were, Buck boy would long ago have disappeared into some dark dungeon, never to emerge again.

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    1. I predicted the jury would find him 'not guilty' or there would be a hung jury. How quickly people forget.

      NW-just because you make some blanket conclusions, doesn't make it so.

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      The cases Bobby cited had nothing to do with homosexual marriage. His cites were like bring up cases in a matter before the court that involve apples in a case deals with oranges. No problem, we all know how disconnected liberals are with reality.

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    2. Bucky, perhaps if you stopped showing your ass, no one would peep up it. Ever think about that? No, of course not. Bucky, if you think English should be the national language, you should learn it first.

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    3. Bad analogy there, buckadoodledoo, apples and oranges? Hell the supreme court doesn't even know the difference between a vegetable and a fruit:
      On May 10, 1893, the US Supreme Court ruled in Nex v. Hedden that a tomato was classified as a vegetable. It's a fruit.

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  10. Our galaxy to hit another in four billion years: NASA:
    http://news.yahoo.com/galaxy-hit-another-four-billion-years-nasa-205617524.html

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    1. Uh oh! What do I need to do to prepare for this?

      It doesn't sound as if a '50s style bomb shelter will do the trick.

      Beef jerky, beef jerky, beef jerky and Twinkies.

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    2. Some dear friends of my family, Dr. Pauline Moser Longest and her husband Cecil Longest had a bomb shelter. They lived in Fayetteville and she taught at Methodist University there. I remember playing in it as a kid and wondering why in the H-bomb we didn't have one.

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    3. Wouldn't Fort Bragg be a high value target? Hope they had it out in the sticks somewhere.

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    4. Oh yes, Fort Bragg, but western electric here in Winston-Salem made guidance system components for ICBMs as I recall.

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    5. We didn't have one because we couldn't afford it. One of our neighbors did, and like you, we played in it...even got into the Twinkies on occasion.

      Bet if the Russian Tupolevs had suddenly appeared overhead the neighbors wouldn't have been so accommodating.

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    6. Yep, W-S was a high priority target and we all knew it. WE, where one of my aunts and one of my uncles worked, made the guidance system for the Nike missile. And RJR also played an important part...you cannot fight a war without cigarettes.

      We had drills at school all the time in which we were taught to get under our desks, but in high school we had a major drill...city buses picked us up and took us to the Robinhood Drive-In theater. My friends and I, all nuclear savvy, were looking at each other like "Why are we stopping here? So we can live .7 seconds longer? Why aren't we at least in Wilkes County by now?"

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  11. Well good night all. As Grouch Marx would say: “I've had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it”
    :)

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