Good AM, folks!
A spirited conversation yesterday, but without trollery, at least at the time of this posting. Nice job, folks!
Word watch: "in point of fact." This is a pretentious oldy, was a favorite of the otherwise fine newsman Ted Koppel, but I heard someone else use it on air recently. What does it mean?
In fact. Truthfully. Indubitably.
ReplyDelete"In point of fact" is closely related to another term we could mostly do without, "case in point".
Both terms appeared in the 17th century and seem to have had some usage in the courts. Though they are still very common, they are fossils, fixed idioms.
Within both of them is a much older idiom "in point" — now defunct — which meant something appropriate, relevant or pertinent.
"In point" derives from the ancient Anglo-Norman French en point or en bon point, in which point could variously mean a condition, state, situation, or plight.
Example: In point of fact, the case in point is that people who use terms like "in point of fact" are lazy hacks.
In point of fact Wednesday headline on Huffington Post:
ReplyDeleteNew Orleans Hunkers Down As Hurricane Isaac Hits Louisiana Coast
So now the city itself is hunkering down. I have this image of buildings squatting to minimize the effect of the wind. But don't worry, they will hunker up as soon as the winds die down.
I think buildings hunker down during earthquakes.
ReplyDeleteTrue, but they never hunker back up afterward, do they?
DeleteNot in one piece, no.
DeleteI saw some show about disasters a few years ago that had a segment about a building built on insubstantial soil. After a time, the structure began to tilt more and more, finally hunkering across a street, damaging other buildings and infrastructure, made quite a mess.
I seem to recall a vacation Bible school song about that..."the foolish man built his house upon the sand..."
DeleteIf we knew better at age 7 than to "build upon the sand", how come there are all those houses down at Ocean Isle, etc? Were they built by 6 year olds who have not yet reached the proper level of vacation bible school? Do they even have vacation bible school anymore? we learened a great deal there...especially how bad Tang tastes.
Tang was replaced by grapefruit juice...or was it the other way around?
DeleteWe know a man who now lives in Greenville,NC who helped develope the north end of Topsail Island. OOOPs. Explains why he moved to Greenville in the mid 1990s.
I have been following this debate about racism on the forum and I must say that Arthur and dotnet are right. And to Stab and WW I will repeat what Arthur said "You just don't get it." Want to put that on "Word Watch", go right ahead.
ReplyDeleteBy accident of birth, I have had almost every advantage that a person can have. First and foremost, born a citizen of the richest, most powerful and one of the freest nations in the history of the world. Second, born a white, Anglo-Saxon protestant male. Third, born of a long line of very smart people who passed down their smart genes to me.
Unlike Mitt Romney, I was not born rich. "In point of fact", we were pretty poor. But that is the easiest handicap to overcome in America as long as you are a native born American WASP male. I have done pretty well, having had a long teaching career at one of the best universities in the world. Even my sister, who lacked the male advantage and so had to fight battles that I did not, ended up teaching at one of the best medical schools in the South.
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"You just don't get it". That's a good "freeze phrase" within a long modern day narrative that is used to maintain a needed status quo. I, and maybe we, get plenty about this. History is recorded fact and all of us acknowledge this. Recent history is still with us and presents a tough challenge. How best to deal with it though. We have allowed the "race industry" and make no mistake-that's what it is- to become something that America is not suited for: a home for the victim narrative of "entitlement and grievance". To remedy, our government made the assumption that spending more of the taxpayer's money will make things better has survived all kinds of evidence that it has made things worse. The black family- which survived slavery, discrimination, poverty, wars and depressions- began to come apart as the federal government moved in with its well-financed programs to "help". But this assumption persists nonetheless. There is plenty to get alright and I get it a bit more each time I see a minority savaged because they break free of what is automatically expected because of who they are--they interrupt the narrative in public on camera. They must be destroyed.
DeleteRush, how did I know you 'were' some type of teacher?
DeleteAnd to think you have the audaity to proclaim that Mitt Romney is out of touch. You're pathetic.
You remind me of some of my friends who also teach in colleges and universities, and they too, think they know everything.
Dealing with them is much like dealing with you. I just tell the truth, and it drives them nuts. They absolutely 'hate' the truth, because it conflicts with their own psychotic opinions.
Did I tell you that you're pathetic? Well, let me tell you again-you're pathetic!
I have many black friends. They are not workplace accidents, but people I met and came to know during the civil rights movement or who I deliberately cultivated as friends, so we are able to talk freely about race, something quite rare in this great country of ours. They are mostly about my age, so we share certain memories.
ReplyDeleteSuch as…we are children of the same age, walking downtown with our parents on a Saturday afternoon in the 1950s. Our parents have encountered some neighbors and all are walking four abreast on the narrow sidewalk. Coming toward us from the opposite direction is a black man and his son.
As the two groups meet, the black man and his son step down into the gutter to let the white folks pass. The black man smiles and tips his hat to our parents, who hardly notice him. But I notice the son. We have been taught that black people are nothing more than high functioning monkeys. So I am curious to discover if that is true.
For a second the black boy's eyes and mine meet. What do I see there? Shame, shame that he and his father must step down into the gutter to let their "betters" pass. That was the beginning of a long journey for me.
After emancipation, different parts of the South had wildly different experiences in regard to race relations. Here, because the tobacco factories desperately needed black labor, things went pretty smoothly for a while. In the 1880s, several black men were elected to the town commission. But by the 1890s, enough black men, just a few decades downstream from slavery, had built successful lives and the loser white men began to see them as competition, a competition that they were not winning.
Enter Jim Crow. Jim Crow was not an accident, or something handed down from Yahweh. Jim Crow was a deliberate attempt to beat down and humiliate black men. And it worked beyond the white losers' wildest dreams. It worked so well that it was still very much in force when I was a child in the 1950s, and it is still working in many places throughout the South, and the North and the West to boot.
A remarkable number of black men were somehow able to withstand the assault. But far too many could not, because Jim Crow struck at the very essence of being a man. So many took to drink or cocaine or whatever and several generations of black children grew up without fathers. Had such a relentless assault been aimed at white men by a dominant black society, the same thing would have happened to white men.
None of my black friends are racists. Most of them are successful businesspeople or doctors or lawyers or teachers or military or law enforcement officers or whatever. But when they hear you whining about people like Walter Marshall and Louis Farrakhan, all they can do is laugh. What personal harm have Walter Marshall and Louis Farrakhan brought to you and yours? You know the answer.
What harm have the KKK and the White Citizens Council and the Aryan Nation and white racists in general brought to black people? You know the answer to that as well.
If I want to cause grievous harm to any of my black friends, I have only to utter one word, a six letter word beginning with "n" and ending with "r". If that doesn't work, I have several dozen more at my command.
If they want to hurt me back, what can they say? Honky? Cracker? Peckerwood? In any case, I am laughing my ass off, because I am the dominant culture, as are you through simple luck of the draw.
So let's try another candidate for "Word Watch". You don't have a clue.
Thanks for moving this to today's discussion, Rush. I came late into the discussion, so I'd like to respond to a few posted comments:
Delete@whitewall: ALL people in EVERY part of the world are "exceptional, self reliant (and) fiercely individualistic among many more unique qualities". Where ever we go, we CAN be 'one of them', just like "an Arabian, a Serbian or a Mexican can come here and be" one of us. It's for this reason that we appreciate our own American uniqueness.
@dotnet: you have an admirable ability to concisely verbalize an opinion. " . . . our attitudes towards life and what we emphasize as being important are shaped by our surroundings and rooted in our self-identity" is EXACTLY what culture means.
@Stab: I've never been exposed to as much talk about racism as I have since I moved here 15+ years ago. On the plus side, we are AT LEAST talking about it. On the negative side, the talk is mostly from those who make indignant charges of racism. Mr. Marshall, Mr. Taylor, and others (I can't remember names right now) have made impulsvie racism charges without putting much thought to what they really mean to say, and I think EVERYONE is fed up with it. I know I am. In response to a comment Mr. Marshall posted re Mr. Taylor's speeding ticket, (or perhaps in defense of it?) I asked if the race card would really work if I used it. Of course, I never received a response.
"You just don't get in Continued". I believe the statements you presented as I can give you column inches equal to that of the very same thing. That is what we saw growing up right here. Today race is used as the great deflector to anyone that dares to say "wait a minute", why the low expectations of minorities, why the silence when crime is rampant within minority communities, why the closed mouth acceptance of self destructive behaviors like out of wedlock births skyrocketing to the level of social destruction? What we get is a series of speech codes--the left has a whole vocabulary devoted to depicting people who do not meet standards as people who have been denied "access." Whether it is academic standards, job qualifications or credit requirements, those who do not measure up are said to have been deprived of "opportunity," "rights" or "social justice. The use of race has no end because "racism" devolves to just plain "excusism". Those minorities who escape the strict victim plantation should be role models, but instead...well we have already covered that scenario. Those who want to maintain the modern narrative of "you just don't get it" are free to do so. That one will die out of necessity.
DeleteLaSombra...@whitewall: ALL people in EVERY part of the world are "exceptional, self reliant (and) fiercely individualistic among many more unique qualities". Where ever we go, we CAN be 'one of them', just like "an Arabian, a Serbian or a Mexican can come here and be" one of us. It's for this reason that we appreciate our own American uniqueness." I can understand parts of your statement and I think you are agreeing to the concept of "American exceptionalism". It is exceptional that all kinds of people came here from all over the world and became one people to build what the world envys. Our American culture, and endless opportunity is what attracts people. But where ever we go we "can be one of them" is a point I reject. My travel experiences inform me differently. "They can come here" and be one of us.
DeleteOT, I set up a separate link in which to reply. Subsequent replies welcomed.
DeletePeople don't have time to discuss race in other parts of the country, because they are too busy working their butts off.
DeleteThe WS Journal has done a fine job of whipping up racial problems in this community because of the constant mention of the Darryl Hunt story. Plus, all these liberal, Journal writers think there are hundreds of white rednecks driving around looking for trouble. Which is a complete fabrication.
Throw in the Rev. Kelly Carpenters of Green St Methodist Church of world, and you've got all this discussion about race in this area- constantly.
There is so much misinformation in some of the posts above that I hardly know where to start. So let's try just three points.
Delete1. The right wing line is that LBJ's Great Society started the disintegration of the black family. That works fine for those who don't know their American history, but it doesn't for me, because I know that that disintegration started with Jim Crow in the 1890s and has continued to this very day. It was, and still is, a deliberate process created by white racists to destroy and marginalize black people and it worked.
2. The idea that problems in the black community are "accepted" could only come from someone who is completely out of touch with what is going on. There are thousands of people, black and white, working diligently, and with some success, on such problems all over the country. For a good example locally, see the Green Street Methodist Church, one of the few truly integrated church congregations in the South, which has many outreach programs that are effective and important.
I have worked for years as a volunteer with at risk black boys both in Chicago and here, so I am aware of the successes and failures. It is a slow process, because, just as with the economy, the hole we are trying dig out of was so deep to begin with.
But the fact of the matter is that crime in general, and crime in black neighborhoods in particular, has been steadily decreasing for over 40 years.
3. Probably the worst of the misinformation is in the area of teen pregnancy. One of the biggest problems in our area is the fundamentalist christian bullshit about sex education and abstention. But even here we are making stunning progress.
Thanks to thousands of very hard working, dedicated people, the teen pregnancy rate in general has fallen over 40% since 1990. For black girls, the drop is nearly 50%.
Somebody is completely out of touch and definitely not getting it.
As to the American culture...that is simply a joke.
DeleteI have been in every one of the fifty states, most of them numerous times, and have good friends in at least 30-35. When I travel I don't go to Disney World. I seek out the local citizens and have conversations with them.
One thing is certain...there are hundreds, if not thousands, of "American cultures" out there. I can see how some people might think that their culture is the only one, but they are very wrong.
As to the American culture, there is one and it consists of what I mentioned yesterday and it is unique. What we do have is a multitude of ethnic identities. I have spent years on the road all over the nation and no I was not vacationing at Disney. We are a multi ethnic- not multi cultural nation. This multiculturalism stuff that started in academia some years ago is part and parcel of the anti Western bias that took over years ago. To use your phrase from above, the multiculturalist line of study is "bullshit".
Delete"None of my black friends are racists."
DeleteRush
Suuuuurrrrrrrrreeeeeee, they aren't. Rush never misses a chance to put a foot in it.
1. I accept the Jim Crow history. Some current policies perpetuate the problem however, and it remains non-PC to observe re those problems.
Delete2. I have been a part of similar efforts, though not on your scale. It would be useful for the blame casters to attend those problems, rather than wave bloody shirts. OT, have you checked the body count in Chicago this year?
3. Hopeful news re teen pregnancy. It would be nice to think that authorities would prosecute the 20-somethings who frequently impregnate the underage girls.
Cultures: yes, lots of cultures in our diverse society, but there are some things that should be universal, but apparently fall outside of panderers' norms.
DeleteLBJ didn't start the destruction, he merely put it into legislation and put taxpayer dollars behind it in a "grand social experiment" that failed. The failure has been so thorough that instead of listening to those who saw things going badly wrong, he and his like minded followers doubled down, defended and increased it, and anyone who objected to this was by God a racist. Successes that you are having are gratifying but not the norm nationwide. Hope they do become the norm.
DeleteIt would help if the Rev. Kelly Carpenters of the world would at least have their facts straight before they start calling people like former DA Tom Keith a racist.
DeleteOf course liberals never let facts get in the way of pushing their 'progressive' agenda though.
I wasn't talking about local success. The decline in crime and in pregnancies is national in scope.
DeleteAnd it isn't the underage girls who have the biggest problem...that is among girls aged 17-19. Girls under 16 have seen the sharpest drop in pregnancies. But all have dropped precipitously.
Anyone who has Chicago connections is quite aware of the Chicago body count. What's the point???
Overall, it's all a matter of scale...the panderers that you worry so much about are insignificant when compared to the institutionalized white racism that continues to grind away, year in and year out.
As to this great monolithic "American" culture, one would love to see someone try to describe it. It cannot be political...over a third of people eligible to vote have never voted and never will. It cannot be religious...the USA is home to thousands of religious sects and cults, none of which is dominant. It cannot be ancestry or land of origin...most Americans are of mixed ancestry, especially in the South where if your family goes back more than 4 generations, the odds are very high that you have some black blood*. So what is it?
* The first DNA studies are showing something that some of us had already guessed. Almost all Americans "think" that they know who their father was. But the initial studies have shown that 1 in 8 is wrong. It is expected that by the time the studies become better designed that the number will rise to 1 in 4-5.
Thanks La Sombra! Credit should go to Ms. Pruitt, my 11th grade English teacher and Ms. Brill whom I had for AP English (and really, REALLY wanted in other ways..omg, she was hot!) Although I dreaded Friday afternoons for 2 years because it meant time to write an in-class essay in a limited amount of time using a limited amount of space, I really appreciated the experience afterwards when it came time to answer essay questions in college as well as write papers. I regard Ms. Brill's legs as the reason I only got a B in her class which is the only time in my academic career I didn't get an A in English.
DeleteAt least most of us know that our fathers were human, unlike in your case Rush.
DeleteOT, you have a tendency to minimize that which is inconvenient, thus the "panderers'" effect is minimal. However, discipline in a school system is less effective because we must have different standards according to them. That is not such a mimimal matter, as it no doubt is feature of more than one school system, and thus affects the educational effectiveness on many students.
DeleteSee my comment on the other thread re the odd placement of "soft bigotry of low expectations."
Please explain this institutionalized white racism, which has generated a black President, JCS Chairman, Secretary of State, Attorney General, CEO's of companies. The director of the NYC Planetarium, Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Former athletes have branched into business successes, Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson come to mind. I mind newscasters and columnists, along with the professional people, and the folks to whom I report, and the 48-yo black woman who is my best friend at work (no romance there, so scandal mongers stand down).
Is it perfect? Of course not. Do morons still use the n-word? Yep, and damn 'em for it. Do inequities remain? Yes. But not all inequities of result are because of institutionalized racism. All that is the goal is equality of opportunity. Equality of result only works out in workers' paradises such as North Korea, and even there they have a nomenklatura.
"A serious subject"
ReplyDeleteThe past couple weeks' letters in The Readers' Forum have concentrated on kittens, chicken sandwiches and cartoons. I'm interested in a more serious subject: When will Kalvin Michael Smith, whose name should be an anagram for "reasonable doubt," be freed ("City council wrong in refusal to support Smith," Aug. 19)?
Police and politicians have suckled long enough on the teat of this injustice — and it's time these piglets pull away and stop pretending they're investigating anything more than prior habit — that habit being identified and thoroughly documented during the trials of Darryl Hunt. Justice and morality have been set aside (I'll grant you the possibility they were, at some point, in place and functioning), replaced by some cheap and poor substitute for which we are all responsible.
Paying no attention to this evil is a way of promoting it.
KURT WEBER
Winston-Salem
"Public safety"
As one born and raised in Winston-Salem, I must ask, where is public safety today?
In 1994, during an appeal of Darryl Hunt's second conviction, the district attorney's office vigorously objected to Hunt's attorneys asking that the DNA material in Deborah Sykes' rape kit be tested. The judge ordered it anyway. The test came back showing the material didn't belong to Hunt or the other two principal suspects in the state's theory of the rape and murder of Sykes.
So, the Winston-Salem Police Department, the Forsyth County District Attorney's office, and the city council then knew for a fact that whoever raped Sykes was unaccounted for. They knew the person who brutally raped and murdered Sykes might have been still on the streets, yet they did not reopen the investigation; they didn't try to find out who the rapist was; they did not advocate for a new trial for Hunt. He remained in prison for eight more years, and our streets remained unsafe.
Given the report of Silk Plant Forest Citizens' Review Committee and that of former FBI agent Chris Swecker, it's abundantly clear the person who brutally beat Jill Marker in 1995 remains unaccounted for. By deciding to take no action in light of these reports ("City won't support retrial," Aug. 11), the city council shows zero concern for public safety.
BILL ALLEN
Winston-Salem
"Finish the Thought"
DeleteSaturday, we asked readers to complete the sentence: "Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan can win large numbers of women voters if they ..."
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"... pray that women have short memories and appeal to their good nature of forgiveness."
BOON T. LEE
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"... continue communicating their vision and their solutions for America, while exposing the failed record and the duplicity of Barack Obama. As with other voting blocs, women too care about job creation and stability, economic growth, affordable food and gas prices and strong national security. Many of us are also concerned about Barack Obama's presidential decrees and the unconstitutional encroachments of his administration.
"I will venture to add that — contrary to the claims of Barack Obama and a few high-profile women — 'free' contraceptives and celebrated abortion 'rights' are not the priorities of truly forward-thinking women."
DEB PHILLIPS
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"… continue to espouse true conservative principles. Women know that a strong economy is the No. 1 factor for ensuring financial security for themselves and their families. They also know that the mountains of debt the government has piled on us threatens the well-being and future of their children. Additionally, women are not fooled by the 'free contraceptives for all' rhetoric thrown out there as bait by the left."
ASTRID TODD
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"… continue making non-factual statements to gullible women.
"However, the majority of women are much too intelligent to believe this political rhetoric. They definitely want to have the right to make decisions about their own bodies, and this will never happen if Republicans should win this election."
NAOMI J. DAVIS
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"… if they — the women, not the candidates — realize this election is not about abortion, rape pregnancies or how much money Romney has.
"When they realize that President Obama and his approach to the financial woes of this country will hurt their most precious asset, their children, they will flock to Romney.
"Ladies, ask yourself one question: As a role model for my children, do I want someone who has never had a job outside government or someone who has fulfilled and surpassed the American dream?"
KEN HOGLUND
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"… can cause the sun to stop shining and get pigs to start flying."
RUDY DIAMOND
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"… address the issues, in a favorable way, that matter most to women now."
WILLIAM SAMS
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"… turn back time to 1950 or renounce the Republican Party's radical anti-woman platform. Neither will happen. As Susan B. Anthony said, 'Modern invention has banished the spinning wheel, and the same law of progress makes the woman of today a different woman from her grandmother.' We don't need Romney/Ryan/Akin setting women back 60 years."
KAM BENFIELD
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"… both have sex change operations. Then they will see how things are from a ladies' prospective."
LARRY A. SPENCER
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"… drop out of the race and support President Obama."
CYNTHIA GOUGH NANCE
Mr. Weber,
DeleteSince you seemed to know everything, like our forum NW, why don't we just drop the keys off for the door to the world at your house, and you handle everything from now on.
GeeeeeeZZZZZZZ! He surely voted for Obama with his boobish mentality.
To all. You may recount that I have often said that I am the most fortunate man I know. This past Sunday I moved to a ~60 acre farm about 95 miles from Winston-Salem, owned by a young couple who are friends of mine. One is a vet ad the other works for Merck Equine. We have a horse, a 16 hand Oldenburg, 6 show ponies, a burro, 4 goats and 4 kids, 3 miniature Vietnamese Potbellied pigs with 6 piglets, numerous chickens, rooster, 2 ducks, 1 white peacock, 5 dogs, and 3 cats. Two 1000sq ft Carriage Houses, one's a workshop, the other houses the carriages for the ponies. They have an old Studebaker buggy, a doctor's buggy which reminds me of a gothic vampire buggy, black leather cover over a red interior, several two wheelers. And at the end of a long day a swimming pool with a view. No houses for as far as the eye can see, just pasture land and trees. Opps, time to go gather the eggs.
ReplyDeleteAnd no light noise at night to interfere with the 360 sky view.
DeleteBob...I can truly and sincerely say that I envy you. Well done. Of the things in my life that probably will remain undone--you are doing it. Good luck.
DeleteBob, Susan and I are very glad for you, but already miss having you come around. But, you're not that far away, and we will be down to see you in your well-deserved Eden, and have a place at the table for you whenever you return here. That includes a standing Thanksgiving invitation.
DeleteEnjoy! Hope you'll still post here.
DeleteBob, the only bad thing I see about being so far away is, I'll bet there aren't any 'Chick-fil-As' close-by.
DeleteBob, you are indeed a fortunate man. I am particularly fond of burros, goats and roosters, all critters who have their own way of looking at life...if we didn't have the last, the sun would never come up.
ReplyDeleteBut I wasn't feeling real envy until you threw in that last part about light noise and 360 views. The happiest times of my childhood were spent lying on an old quilt on a hilltop at my grandparents' farm contemplating the universe. My grandfather knew every constellation and my grandmother knew the mythology behind each one. I too am a fortunate person.
Indeed. I had every intentions of being an Astronomer. I took an Astronomy course freshman year and the professor told me I needed to major in physics and be proficient in a foreign language. He recommended Russian because in 1973, the Soviet Scientist did not publish their papers in English, everyone else did. Lab sections for Astro161 were at the Morehead Planetarium. One Monday under the dome, the next in the Observatory. I also took a course in Cosmology under Dr. Christiansen, but my first physics course made me realize that my interest in Astronomy was purely aesthetic. I was already taking Russian and my freshman adviser taught Russian History, so there's that story.
DeleteThat is astronomy's loss. I suspect you might well have been a part of the long-sought TOE.
DeleteBoy, Ryan got the liberal Democrats all riled up last night. I thought Donna Brazile of CNN was going to have a heart attack.
ReplyDeleteLiberals hate the truth.
Ryan speech fact check
DeleteTruth is truer when backed by facts.
Do you ever read the articles you put up to retort something?
DeleteTwo thirds of the article you cited, doesn't refute what Ryan said, it just mentions that he did similar things.
You've jumped into Rush's nitwitted hay wagon here recently, dotnet. I just don't know what to think of you?
Good afternoon folks!
ReplyDeleteLTE 1, 2: 2 excellent letters regarding a matter that the city insists on sweeping under the rug. I'm sure the city is crying the same refrain "we're broke" as a reason to not pursue the truth of whom really is responsible for the attack on Ms. Marker, but the Marker family as well as Kalvin Smith deserve the truth. The other reason could also be how much money would be owed to Mr. Smith upon his release for wrongful incarceration. From what I understand, one of (if not the) most likely suspects in the case is deceased, which should provide some relief over Mr. Allen's safety concerns.
Finish the thought: Lordy have mercy, I've been trying to figure out to win over women myself for years without success, so this question is clearly out of my pay range. Mr. Spencer seems to have the right idea. Btw...how on earth did a move to have insurance companies include contraceptives as part of their health coverage devolve into 'free contraceptives for all'??
A radical, liberal judge appointed by former President Bill Clinton, rules against Texas' voter I.D.law just in time to corrupt the election.
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David Tatel, an appeals court judge appointed by President Bill Clinton and writing for the panel, called the Texas law "the most stringent in the nation."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/30/federal-court-rules-against-texas-voter-id-law/?test=latestnews#ixzz253PVMJ4g
Zimmerman's 'judge' must step down, appeals court says.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cnn.com/2012/08/29/justice/florida-zimmerman-judge/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1
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Maybe he'll get a 'fair' hearing now, and go on with his life. These liberal zealots are getting out of hand!
Women like Obama, now. When the money runs out, they'll be the first to start whining about him and his policies. Trust me.
ReplyDeletehttp://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/08/women-voter-lifetime-poll-economy-michelle-obama-hillary-/1