Saturday, December 29, 2012

Winston-Salem Journal LTE SA 12/29/12


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Our species has devised efficient ways of killing people: the hangman's noose, the guillotine, sawed-off shotguns, assault rifles, handguns.
But among the civilized nations, only America has made some of these devices so readily available as to be a public health problem and a threat to its children.
The NRA says we need more handguns to make schools safer. That would be funny if it weren't so tragically wrong.
ROBERT MERRITT
WINSTON-SALEM
Support for gun control
Right now there is support for some laws protecting citizens from gun violence. Presumably, background checks would be more thorough; gun owners required to have and renew permits attesting to their competence, mental health and lack of criminal records; and both semi-automatic weapons and large ammunition magazines would be banned from sale in stores, at gun shows or on the Internet.
At some point, however, there should be a serious discussion of the interpretation of the Second Amendment. Surely an individual does not make up 'a well-regulated militia.' At the time of the writing of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, the guns available were the muzzle-loaded musket and the flintlock pistol, long guns (c. 5') that fired a single lead ball, having been primed for each firing with gun powder dropped down the barrel. These were the weapons possessed by the people who participated in their local 'well-regulated militias.' The incongruence of applying the Second Amendment to the possession of the full range of weapons currently available would be ludicrous, were the dangers not so horrific and pathetic. There is no humor in this situation.
It is time that our thinking and our laws recognize that we live in the 21st century, not the 18th, and time for our legislators to enact law consistent with reality.
KATHERINE MCGINNIS WINSTON-SALEM
Collective insanity
Recent news conferences with House Speaker John Boehner and NRA President Wayne La Pierre made me cringe with anger, fear and sorrowful resignation.
Fear that the tea party Republican members of the House cannot even recognize when they have won a victory, sealing extraordinarily low tax rates for the wealthiest at the expense of 90 percent of all Americans, including most tea partiers. They're willing to derail the economic recovery on 'principle.' Anger that the NRA is so powerful and arrogant that it can actually propose setting up armed camps in our schools and are ready to start training and arming the school enforcers.
Sorrowful resignation because I am not surprised.
What else should I expect from a country with 300 million guns already in circulation? A country that foregoes universal performance driven medical coverage in favor of the costliest for-profit health care in the world; that spends more on defense than most of the rest of the world combined; that decided 30 years ago to stop taxing multimillionaires at the margin and let the wealthiest 1 percent double their share of America's wealth while the bottom 80 percent lost 20 percent; that allowed Wall Street to get too big to fail and quickly bailed it out when it did fail to save us all.
A country that now expects the 90 percent who have already lost their American dream to bear the brunt of paying back all the debt accumulated to the benefit of the very few.
RICHARD B. HILTON
ADVANCE
Guns don't kill people
Gun advocates say 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people.' They leave out the rest of that axiom, 'but people with guns kill more people than people without guns.' When I go to a theater or to the mall, is a deranged gunman going to appear and start shooting? What concerns me even more is the possibility of being caught in the crossfire between him and legal but poorly trained citizens who have gotten concealed gun permits. That would mean even more bullets whizzing through the air.
I'm not advocating the ban of all guns, but we need to look at what is out there. No one needs assault-type weapons. No one needs high-capacity magazines for their guns. What we do need is the strengthening of and more stringent enforcement of existing laws.
A member of Congress said that if the teachers in Sandy Hook Elementary School had been armed this tragedy could have been averted. This scares me. Is this the solution we seek, an America where we expect our teachers to become combatants in gun battles using inferior weapons against heavily armed and crazed assailants who ought not to have access to guns in the first place?
Let's sit down with logic, reason and common sense to reach a decision to further reduce the possibility of our children being harmed in the future. And let's do it now.
RICHARD SIMMONS
WINSTON-SALEM
Punishment
The disaster in Newtown, Conn., is the result of God punishing us for 'taking prayer out of schools?' It seems more likely that God would be punishing us for allowing guns on the streets.
BETHANY PARE
WINSTON-SALEM
Preventing horrors
Two thoughts about the tragedy in Newtown, Conn.: There is something fundamentally wrong with our society, which fosters these unspeakable atrocities. But we are also doing something right. For each of these horrors, many are being prevented; we just don't know it.
What was it that prevented other disturbed people from acting out? Was it a parent who noticed a change in a child and did something about it? Was it an astute teacher or school counselor who called in a child for a friendly chat? Was it a gun salesman who felt suspicious and denied the sale of a weapon? We have to find out what we are doing right and how to share that with others.
Here's what might work. Challenge our universities to do the best analysis in the world to discover how to prevent these horrors. Have the university create a Simpson-Bowles type map of what to look for and what to do about it. For example:
. Ban the purchase of assault weapons;
. Have trained mental-health professionals in each school;
. Have an armed law-enforcement officer at a desk near the main entrance to each school;
. Create a procedure for teachers and parents to act on and clearly identify each step.
These are just a few examples. The universities must do the research and analysis. We don't need our government in this process to bog it down. We can do this ourselves.
KEN JADOFF
WINSTON-SALEM
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18 comments:

  1. Saturday's letters have not been posted yet.

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  2. Wow, still not available. Maybe victim of fiscal cliff, late Mayan Apocalypse, or overbearing Verizon type copyright barons.

    All six are let's hear it for the gun (not, mostly) LTEs.

    Readily available
    Support for gun control
    Collective insanity
    Guns don't kill People
    Punishment
    Preventing horrors.

    Would try my hand at summarizing, but got to head to Dean Dome to see Heels play.

    Of notable mention is the statement from "Guns don't kill people". "Guns advocates say ""Guns don't kill people, people kill people."" They leave out the rest of that axiom, ""but people with guns kill more people than People without guns.""

    Go Heels.

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    1. David Tovar, a Wal-Mart spokesman, said the Bushmaster gun was not for sale online and the web listing contained directions for the nearest store where it could be purchased. The ad was pulled because of sensitivity to the Newtown massacre, Tovar said.

      Similar assault rifles, including the Bushmaster, continue to be available for sale at over 1,200 Wal-Mart stores where guns are sold.

      "We have not made any changes to the assortment of guns we sell," Tovar said.

      In the past year, sales of guns at Wal-Mart have skyrocketed. Executive vice president Duncan Mac Naughton told shareholders at a meeting in October that gun sales at Wal-Mart stores open for a year or more increased 76% for the year, and ammunition sales were up 30%.
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      Obama certainly has improved one segment of the economy. Hee Hee...I'm sure liberals are none too happy about this.

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    2. You're like most attorneys Hatchman. You hate the truth.

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    4. You lazy motherfucker, you won't even put the link into HTML. It's not like you don't know how to do it...your knife site is pretty detailed, if a little "Geocities" for my taste. Good grief.

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    5. Don't take on any internet investigations anytime soon Hatchman. You're clearly not ready.

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    6. Where's Rielle Hunter? I haven't heard from her lately. She's about due.

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    7. Rielle Hunter? Jesus...get some new material. Maybe Gennifer Flowers is up to no good.

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  3. Ken Jadoff's LTE gets off to a great start. The first three paragraphs are dead on target. But when he gets down to specifics, he wanders into the same foggy thinking that has created the problem in the first place.

    * Ban the purchase of assault weapons Too late. If I want an "assault weapon" I'll just go to some gun nuts house and steal one.

    * Have trained mental-health professionals in each school Already done. The Sandy Hook school had a trained psychologist and a trained counselor on the staff. The shooter was not a student at the school

    * Have an armed law-enforcement officer at a desk near the main entrance to each school This is the "NRA solution" and reveals just how little thinking is done by the NRA and gun nuts in general. If I want to shoot up a school, I just walk in, gun in hand, and the first person I shoot is the armed officer. The gun nuts, most of whom watch way too many movies, habitually overlook the fact that I have got the drop on the officer. It doesn't matter if he is Billy the Kid's great, great grandson, there is no way that he can get his gun out of its holster before I put a half dozen rounds into him.

    Alternatively, I can just stroll over to the gym, where the officer is not, and take out a few dozen sweaty gym rats. Schools are big places, offering varied opportunities for the enterprising mass killer.


    * Create a procedure for teachers and parents to act on and clearly identify each step Now we're on the right track, but unlike the simple-minded stuff above, this one is extremely complicated and will require a lot of thinking, not a popular pastime in the USA. One of its greatest weaknesses is that it would require parents to behave in a responsible manner.

    A guy I went to high school with set fire to a couple of buildings at NC State his freshman year. His parents, busy being rich, suburban socialites, denied that there was anything "wrong" with him. We kids could have told them different, but nobody was listening to us.


    The citizens of the USA have rarely encountered a problem that they could not solve…if they wanted to. We could follow the lesson of the creation of the atomic bomb and create a blue ribbon panel of experts to study the problem on the same scale and produce a solution, providing them with whatever resources they might need, and there would at least be a chance of finding a solution.

    Unfortunately, that will not happen, because the habitual tax whiners are willing to spend any amount to create destructive weapons and airport "security" systems, but they would never stand still for spending money on a peaceful solution to any problem.

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    1. I'll be willing to send more of my tax money for armed guards in schools. They can take the money out of the food stamp program that currently spends money on food stamps for many crack heads, illegal immigrants, and college students whose parents have enough money to pay for their food.
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      "On food stamps, free lunches, WIC and other food related relief programs our government spends around $2.2 billion per year for the illegal immigrants."

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    2. More made-up fantasies from the Buckworld Info Dump.

      The origin of this number is one of those chain e-mails sent out by hysterical right wings natterers and picked up by every crackpot Chicken Little website in the land.

      As always, ignorance is next to godliness.

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  4. "It is time that our thinking and our laws recognize that we live in the 21st century, not the 18th, and time for our legislators to enact law consistent with reality."

    KATHERINE MCGINNIS
    WINSTON-SALEM
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    This is what I most enjoy about liberals. They've lived in their pseudo reality so long, they actually think their reality is real.

    Pssssssst. Hey Ms. McGinnis! There are over nearly 300 million guns in the U.S. alone. All those guns aren't going to just disappear even if you go door to door to collect them.

    Oh dear. I wish they had more space at Butner.

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    1. Aha, still struggling with and committing assault upon our poor American language, I see:

      "There are over nearly 300 million [sic] guns in the U.S. alone."

      One wonders just how many "over nearly 300 million" guns might be.

      As to Butner, Butner is an incorporated town in Granville County, NC. For many years it was managed by the state of North Carolina, but in 2007 the state legislature made it an incorporated town, which is now managed by its residents.

      The Butner area was used as a military training center during the Civil War and the Spanish American War. Camp Butner was established there as a military training center and POW camp during WW II. A state National Guard training center still exists nearby.

      There is plenty of "space" there, as the area hosts:

      1. The Butner Federal Correctional Complex, made up of Camp Butner (male only), Federal Correctional Institute Butner Low, FCI Butner Medium I, FCI Butner Medium II, and Federal Medical Center.

      2. The Polk Correctional Institution, a unit of NCDOC.

      3. The C.A. Dillon Youth Development Center, a unit of the NC Department of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention.

      4. The Murdoch Development Center, the Whitaker School, the R.J. Blackley Alcohol & Drug Abuse Treatment Center and Central Regional Hospital (replacing the John Unstead and Dorothea Dix hospitals), all units of the NC Department of Health & Human Services.

      Bernie Madoff is "Celebrity Prisoner #1" at the Butner federal complex. He likes to walk the gravel running track with other celebs such as former mob boss Carmine Persico and former spy Jonathan Pollard…no doubt reminiscing about the bad old days.

      As of December 28, 2012, the number of federal inmates totaled 4964. There are 1997 inmates at Polk CI, 140 at Dillon, 432 at Central, 500 at Murdoch, 18 at Whitaker and 75 at Blakely. Dorothea Dix, in Raleigh, still serves 350-400 patients. There are over 900 graves in the Dix cemetery dating back to the mid 19th century.

      So a total of about 8,100 inmates in Butner's various facitilities, slightly more than the population of the town. Since the bulk of the townsfolk are employed at one or another of the facilities, we can be sure that they are an upbeat and joyous lot. I'm sure that Buckboy would fit right in to any of the facilities or would be welcome to join the fun loving town folk.

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  5. Here's a good one:

    A lawyer, who else right?, wants to sue the state for 100 million dollars (not pesos-that's coming soon I'm sure) regarding the Connecticut school shooting for lack of security.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57561240/lawyer-$100m-sought-in-newtown-school-shooting/
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    Now wait just a dog-gone-minute. I thought liberals said it was a dopey idea to have beefed up security through armed guards? What are they going to do, pass out fly swatters for weapons against these mental nut jobs?

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