True collaboration
We all will benefit when labor and management find true collaboration, as columnist Mary Gowan recently suggested (“When labor, management cooperate, everyone wins,” Jan. 10). We're glad she calls out employers like Wal-Mart that deflate wages and create an unsustainable economic environment.
In her effort to offer balance, Gowan cites benefits of right-to-work statutes. It is clear that such laws weaken unions. But studies of the more recent right-to-work states such as Oklahoma and Idaho are inconclusive in their findings about right-to-work as a job creator. The statutes may benefit business owners’ profits and lower overall wages for workers. Workers have fewer benefits, are less safe on the job, and, with weaker unions, there are fewer community voices to fight for rights for everyone. Factors such as a skilled labor force, a good education system, solid infrastructure and quality of life are more often cited as attractors of new business and retention of existing employees.
Gowan holds up Henry Ford as a model for collaboration with employees. We shouldn’t forget that Ford was originally pushed to increase wages by the growing power of the Industrial Workers of the World. His brand of “collaboration” was also decidedly paternalistic. Those who got increased wages also had to agree to be spied on in their private lives by Ford’s “Sociological Department.”
Organized labor and the right to collective bargaining still hold a role in an economic environment where everyone wins.
THE REV. WILLARD BASS
THE REV. CRAIG SCHAUB
Winston-Salem
Revising Social Security
I read the Jan. 11 letter "Regressive tax break" and found it rather shortsighted. To begin with, we have been hearing for years about the financial problems of Social Security. The last estimate I remember seeing is that it will run out of funds to pay retirees in 2035. The idea behind Social Security was to set up a minimum retirement plan for working citizens; however, two years ago, the powers that be felt it better to reduce the employee payment by 2 percent to give us more money during these difficult times.
There has also been the debate over revising Social Security such that each person can make his or her own choices about how to "invest" their money for retirement (IRA/401K/etc.). Forget the argument that it is your money to invest; all government employees, union workers and some private corporate employees are forced to pay into their employer's retirement plan.
I do not know the age of the letter writer, his income level, investment portfolio or anything else about him; however, I wonder if he put his extra 2 percent into an IRA/401K or some other long-term retirement package. If not, then he has just demonstrated why Social Security cannot be revised to permit the average citizen to invest on his own.
Then again, why should I care? I will start getting full Social Security benefits next year; I will be pushing 90 when it runs out.
DAVID BOTCHIN
Winston-Salem
Stimulating the economy
In response to the Jan. 11 letter “Regressive tax break”:
The U.S. economy was stagnant, growth was needed. Means to put more money each month into taxpayers’ hands was sought so taxpayers would in turn spend the money and stimulate the economy.
Social Security funds do not add to or diminish the deficit. Social Security is supported by FICA tax contributions made by individuals working and receiving a salary.
FICA taxes go into the Social Security Trust Fund. The funds are then used to pay for the retirement benefits, Social Security and Medicare one will receive through Social Security upon his or her retirement and to pay the benefits of those already retired.
A 2 percent temporary reduction in FICA taxes was implemented to put more money in taxpayers’ hands with the hope they would spend it and improve the economy. This approach was taken be cause partisanship by some elected officials was used to block other efforts to stimulate the economy. The alternative was to do nothing and let the American economy worsen.
An individual’s retirement planning should receive a very high priority early in life. Each and every person should contribute to their retirement account if they expect to receive a retirement benefit upon retiring. One should never look at retirement funding as a burden.
THOMAS S. STALEY
East Bend
Finish the Thought
Briefly complete the sentence below and sent it to us at letters@wsjournal.com. We’ll print some of the results in a few days. Only signed entries, please -- no anonymous ones.
“Lance Armstrong’s confession means …”
True collaboration. Give the Journal credit, they include all kinds of preachers, from backwoods fundamentalist preachers to red collar pop culture preachers.
ReplyDeleteRevising Social Security. Just leave SS as it is and it will "revise" itself. In the meantime rest in comfort knowing that the under 35 crowd has demonstrated their undying devotion to us old folks and our "retirement funding". The feudal spirit is alive.
ReplyDeleteStimulating the economy. Since 1972, our growth has been marked by a series of bubbles that have risen and fallen or even burst. The 2007- 2008 financial collapse was the collapsing of several bubbles at once. Our government is trying to kick start an economy with massive money printing in a failed effort to do so. A few dollars cut from FICA taxes will make no difference. This economy has never been allowed to find a natural bottom, which will hurt like hell, so it can repair the excesses, phony markets and asset valuations. A few dollars of FICA won't matter. Our government is currently borrowing 40 cents of every dollar it spends.
ReplyDeleteLance Armstrong’s confession means …” yet another "win at any cost" pop culture phony bites the dust.
ReplyDeleteJust think of what Lance took away from his competitors that were trying to compete fairly?
DeleteHe's a lot like our own Lance Armstrong that we have in here. By not telling the truth, and trying to manipulate facts and data to meet his own warped, perverted views, he deprives some gullible people of making good electoral decisions.
As for questionable spending, even though the USPS is self funded (or bankrupt as the case may be), why did the postal service sponsor a cycling team anyway?
DeleteGood question.
DeleteAs to Lance's competitors, I'm shedding no tears. International cycling is infested with doping cheaters. Over 400 international cyclists were either suspended or banned in the first decade of the 21st century.
The biggest race in Italy was twice terminated before it reached the end because so many competitors had been kicked out.
As with most other sports, the problem is too much money.
Good morning all. Interesting letters today particularly for our blog constituents, but the fact that it is not raining or snowing might preclude lengthy discussion.
ReplyDeleteLTR#1 Ah the wonders of unions. I'm sure our leader will disagree. I do find it interesting that our General Assembly is looking to make NC more like Texas especially with the proposal to greatly reduce or even eliminate the state income tax and replace it with sales taxes.
I read Gail Collin's book "As Texas Goes" in which she explores what makes Texas such a wonderful climate for business and such at bad place for workers. For businesses: right to work, little regulatory oversight, great state funded business incentive programs (corporate welfare), cheap and plentiful energy and labor (both legal and illegal), no state income tax and low corporate taxes. For workers: poorly funded public education system (both university system and school system), almost non existent social safety net (very low income threshold excludes most from Medicaid), almost no worker compensation system, minimal unemployment compensation, sales tax based economy burdens the poor because it consumes a very large portion of their meager pay, and now defunding of Planned Parenthood.
The Texas work force is stratified like this: about 30% of the population has a really great job with good salary and benefits, another 40% make their living from low wage service jobs catering to the top 30% and the bottom 30% struggle to find enough work make it into the middle 40%. Texas has great need for highly educated and technically adept employees but it has such a poor and underfunded university system that it has to poach educated workers from other states which have invested in their education systems.
The two primary reason their economy is the envy of other states is it's abundance of cheap energy and high levels of cheap labor. I doubt NC will able to duplicate the abundance of cheap energy although with fracking and the proposed drilling off the NC coast it appears we are going to try. It does seem that we will be able to develop an abundance of cheap uneducated labor as we decrease funding for public schools and our university system. We're already a right to work state with the lowest union representation rate in the nation. If right to work is so great why aren't we leading the nation in new job creation? We may also be able to duplicate the tax system. This should give us an economy like Texas where 30% of the population has what we used to think of as a middle class job and the rest struggle to reach that 30%, but with little hope due to the lack of education, training and social safety net.
Have you ever lived or been to Texas? I've been there, and it's a wonderful place. The beer is cold, and the women are smokin hot. Cervezas frias, y chicas calientes.
DeleteYou can wear a gun to a barbecue and nobody thinks anything of it. They may ask what brand it is, but that's about it.
It's one of a few places that is growing economically, and its state government is not in trouble finanically.
It's certainly not like CA where you fear if you make a simple wrong turn, somebody will give you a ticket. Plus, you've got a million gay bucks and BDs roaming certain sections of it.
CA in general is certainly a beautiful place, it's too bad liberals have ruined it.
If N.C. has to change, I'd rather it change to Texas style, than California's.
Thank goodness we've finally gotten rid of Bev. (D), what a nightmare she was.
Let the good times roll. Dame una cerveza mas!
Finally the weather has broken. I'll get in a good five today. I don't want to end up looking like Rush.
DeleteBucky I'll throw a barbecue and you and your gun are invited. April or May. Let me know of a weekend that works for you. We'll have Stellas too. I bet we could get most of the forum to attend.
DeleteNot if Tiny's going to bring his "gun"...;D
DeleteAnd what kind of Wimp let's a little rain interfere with his daily "workout"? Jeez...
DeleteWordly, we're in for the barbecue, but will not bring weapons.
DeleteEven before President Barack Obama laid out his gun control proposals Wednesday, calling on Congress to act as well as signing executive orders, several states responded by saying they would try to block the enforcement of any measures.
ReplyDeleteFrom the Mississippi governor to lawmakers in Texas, Missouri and Wyoming, even local sheriffs in Oregon and Kentucky, many of those who oppose the president's proposal believe it is within their legal right to not only refuse to enforce federal legislation, but to make it a crime for a federal agent to try and enforce the law in their states.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/states-obama-gun-proposals-constitutional/story?id=18243043
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If Obama can refuse to enforce certain laws like DOMA, immigration laws, and drug laws because he claims they are UnConstitutional, or because he just wants to curry favor to liberals and others, then it's clearly okay for states to do the same.
Just say 'no' to new gun laws is what I say.
You gotta love the pack of dogs that Tiny runs with...
DeleteThey're all just like him, a bunch of ignorant windbags...let'em try defying the government, and we'll see them turn into hangdogs.
In fact, if Old Hickory was still in the White House, we'd be treated to some public hangings for treason.
Obama can't keep 11 million illegals out of the country, do you really thing he can enforce an unconstitutional gun law if 300,000,000 people defy him?
DeleteAs stupid as you are, you probably do. Pathetic!
I see that Big Tiny Little Chicken has been doing some fantasy traveling again, this time to the Lone Star state. Apparently he visited while some silly movie was being made. One tip: if you’re going to wear your gun to somebody’s barbecue, be prepared to join the 1200 or so other homicide victims that die in Texas each year.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, here’s part of the price of all that prosperity that you hear about, most of which is greatly exaggerated:
Texas has the fifth highest percentage of people living in poverty in the US. The only states that are worse are Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and New Mexico, which makes Texas the geographic center of poverty in the nation.
One out of five Texans are illiterate, compared to a dunghill like South Carolina, where only one in seven are Tiny types. Texas has the worst high school graduation rate in the US, and has the lowest percentage of citizens covered by health insurance.
___US Census Bureau
According to a formula developed by Forbes magazine, Texas is the 7th most dangerous state in the union, and has more people incarcerated than all but a handful of nations. The only more dangerous states are such paradises as Missouri, Arizona, Florida, Nevada, Tennessee and Louisiana. Violent crime costs Texas $43 billion per year.
___Forbes
Once upon a time, Texas had an excellent school system and the University system rivaled our own in NC. No more. In the most recent legislative session, $5.4 billion was chopped from the public school budget, causing massive teacher losses statewide.
But for the university system, it was worse. The hardest hit was the University of Texas, El Paso, which lost 1400 full time faculty and staff, 40% of all their employees. Texas A&M lost almost 2,000 full time and part time staff, as did Texas Tech. The heart of the system, the University of Texas, Austin, lost over 3,900. The Texas system is no longer competitive.
___Dallas Morning News
What I like about Texas is they have the death penalty, and they actually carry it out.
DeleteNone of this 'Racist Justice Act' nonsense that 'ol Bev and the liberals Democrats implemented here.
DeleteI'll bet McCrory the Rs toss that out the door in the coming months, and fairly quickly too.
LTE #1 - In 1971, 61% of Americans qualified as “middle class”. Today, only 51% do. A few have moved up, most have moved down.
ReplyDeleteIn 1971, the lower class held 10% of the national wealth. Today they hold 9%. At that time, the middle class held 62%...today 45%. Only the upper class has increased its holdings, from 29% in 1971 to 46% today.
Even worse is the numbers for net worth. The upper class has held its own over the last 42 years. But the lower class has dropped from $18,421 to $10,151, while the middle class has plummeted from $129,582 to $93,150. (All info from Pew Research, August, 2012)
There are several reasons behind this great wealth grab, but as a chart that I posted earlier shows, the decline of the middle class goes hand in hand with the decline of unionism, an all out war that the filthy rich are winning.
What amuses me the most is that the rich get most of their support from the dwindling middle class, which shows us that somebody isn’t thinking too clearly.
LTE #2 & 3 – The SS tax cut was a good idea, but it had come to its useful end. As one writer pointed out, a bigger stimulus would have been better, but the House is completely controlled by lunatics and the Senate is not much better.
The stimulus did work, no matter what the right wing propaganda machine says. A bigger one would have worked better. With more reasonable people in the House, the economy would be improving much faster.
And despite the incessant moans of the Chicken Little crowd, SS is far from doomed and does not need a major reworking. A simple change in who pays what amount can fix any problems that now exist.
Am reading The Price of Inequality right now...it's quite good.
DeleteGood PM, folks!
ReplyDeleteIf lower productivity and higher prices are economic stimuli, then unions make perfect sense. But, that lowered productivity is one of the reasons the middle class percentage is lower. Unionized middle class jobs went away. Yes, other reasons, such as short-sighted management and advances in technology, are also responsible, but unions waged their own war, and shot themselves in the foot. Now, in order to increase dues payment, they must have the servile Administration issue orders making it easier to corrall dues payers without the dues payers' free consent. That's how attractive unions are to much of the private sector workforce.
The old saw about unions lowering productivity has been disproven repeatedly by study after study...but like a bad dream, it just keeps coming back, coming back, coming back, coming back, coming back, coming back...
DeleteAbsenteeism, work rules, wildcat strikes, right. Compare unionized construction costs v. non-union. Compare average GM labor costs with those of a US Toyota plant. How about those middle class longshoreman contracts on the W coast ($196K for clerks, with 11 weeks of vacation, for clerks) and E coast ($50/hr plus a ridiculous "loading bonus")? I'm sure you were aware of those deals. Sure makes one want to go to the barricades.
DeleteI sincerely wish that I had not used the "U" word, but sometimes I am compelled to tell the truth.
DeleteI will immediately switch back to lying, and will try my best not to tell the truth ever, ever again. We wouldn't want Tiny to feel as if he is the only liar here.
Except I must point out that there is no $50/hour "loading fee".
What was being discussed is a "royalty" fee charged when loading containerized freight. This was negotiated back in the 60s when the introduction of containerized freight cut heavily into longshoreman jobs and income. The two sides, management and labor, came to an accommodation at the time.
Now the US Marine Alliance is claiming that the royalties amount to $15,500 per year per longshoreman, which would amount to about $7 per hour, not $50. Of course, the union declares a far lower number, near zero. You may choose to believe whichever you like…I choose to believe neither. That is simply a part of the negotiation process, which requires both sides to lie. Let's hope that none of them are true Christians, because the jaws of hell yawn somewhere down the road if they are.
Fortunately, we can blame all this on that long dead rascal Malcom McLean, of Maxton and W-S, NC and, eventually, NYC, who essentially invented modern containerized shipping.
Malcom was one of the most fascinating men that I ever knew. He started pumping gas in Maxton while a teenager, barely graduated from high school, scrimped and saved to buy a second hand 1934 model truck for $120, and with his sister Clara as business manager and brother Jim as chief mechanic and himself as driver, founded a trucking business.
Not long afterward, the McLean Trucking Company was the second largest trucking company in the USA, with 1,770 trucks and 32 terminals scattered across the country. In 1958, McLean became the first US trucking company listed on the New York stock exchange.
Malcom loved to tell that story, giving most of the credit to his beloved sister Clara ("She kept us boys in line") over lunch at a diner called "Fat Man's" on Old Lexington Road, a few doors down from McLeans' world headquarters, where on any given day you could find the chairman of RJR Tobacco, the head of the nearby NCSA dance department and assorted ruffians and rednecks being bullied by the Fat Man's widow, the queen of home style cooking in this part of the world. She actually called her daily feature "The Blue Plate Special". If you ate there several days in a row and ordered the same thing, she would substitute a different dish, saying "You need more variety in your diet, sonny." No arguing allowed.
The idea of containerized freight originated in England in the mid-19th century and was gradually improved upon by US railroads in the 20th, but was nowhere near as efficient as it could have been. In the 1950s, Malcom set his mind to perfecting the concept. He redesigned a couple of old oil tankers and designed a new steel box as the container, the idea being to maximize the carrying capacity of the ship.
In 1956, with dozens of celebrities in attendance, the "SS Maxton" sailed from the port of Newark, bound for Houston with 58 of Malcom's containers on deck. Freddy Fields of the International Longshoreman's Association was on hand. When asked what he thought by a reporter, he said "I'd like to sink that son of a bitch", thus beginning the debate that continues to today.
At the time, it cost $5.86 per ton to hand load a cargo ship. Malcom's invention reduced that cost to 16₵ per ton. For his achievement he was named "Man of the Century" by the international Maritime Hall of Fame.
I really, really miss him.
Oh, and if I ever use the "U" word again, you are entitled to smack the back of my hand, hard, once, with a steel ruler, as my second grade teacher used to do. I might even spring for a ten pack of Stella.
I guess everybody has heard about the boneheaded move Gov. Cuomo and his merry band of dummy Democrats committed, right? If you haven't, it seems the good governor and his nitwitted new law writers forgot to exempt N.Y. cops from his little magazine capacity ban. So now, all the cops in the State of New York are walking around committing misdemeanors right now, and they could be arrested. Hell, I guess they could arrest themselves and place themselves in jail if they wanted to. Lordy...Lordy, sounds like something Rush would do, doesn't it?
ReplyDeleteHee....Hee...yeppers...I don't have to look too far for the Democratic daily double of stupidity, do I?
Sorta like a Nancy Pelosi do over is what they want to do now. They gotta fix the law that they were in so big of a hurry to pass. What else will they have to fix, after they fix the fix?
DeleteDoes any of this sound familiar? It's the same old broken Democratic record playing over and over and over again.
Looks like a Democrat was out prowling around last night at 3:30am in the morning and got himself shot by a lawful gun owner.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wxii12.com/news/local-news/piedmont/Man-shot-to-death-in-Guilford-County-suspect-identified/-/10703612/18199738/-/a2f3lfz/-/index.html
"People are seldom killed while cleaning their knives." ~ ~ Molly Ivins
ReplyDeleteMolly hates the Bushes. Just like you hate me.
DeleteRielle, does that man look like he could run five miles? I'll answer the question for you. No.
So you can continue your misidentification of me if you wish, but you are just looking more stupid by the day-if that's possible.
Unless you're lying about running 5 miles.
DeleteMolly doesn't hate the Bushes . . . she's dead.
Delete. . . and I don't hate you; you're a great source of entertainment. Just like the Bushes were to Molly.
DeleteWell, after all, that is Tiny's job...as it has been for centuries...the fool is hired to entertain the court (us).
DeleteAll hail the fool! Sis, boom , bah!
Indeed, indeed, indeed I do,
Indeed, indeed, indeed I do,
Indeed, indeed, indeed I do,
Love you baby, yes I do!
Bo Diddley had to be thinking about Molly Ivins when he wrote that song. Bo was great and Molly was great and they both knew it...missing them.
BTW, I stumped Google with those lyrics...first time ever...my search brought up a bunch of Tiny-like nonsense...but no Bo Diddley.
Oops, forgot the link:
DeleteBo Diddley: Indeed I Do
And one of the greatest moments in rock 'n' roll history, Hawaii, 1973:
DeleteBo Diddley/Chuck Berry
Unfortunately, I was elsewhere.