Imagining a Hanes Park
Perhaps a movement away from polarity and binary decision-making would serve the Hanes Park dilemma well. The writer of the July 1 letter "It's worth protecting" is right; the park is for the enjoyment of Winstonians and is the center of much vibrant activity.
Hanes Park contains three public school buildings, one and a half of which are architecturally attractive. The vicinity also contains three parking lots and a road that could be widened to accommodate diagonal parking.
A working group could begin to imagine razing the Wiley Middle School Gym and retasking the bus parking-lot space, starting this process with a blank slate. The acreage provided could perhaps allow for a new gym, adjacent to Wiley, to allow all-season access for students; that could connect to stadium seating and encompass training rooms and locker rooms for Reynolds athletes. A multisports field might perhaps be fitted into this newly created space, with seating built into the hillside and architectural queues befitting the Georgian influences from the surrounding school buildings.
Such a group could imagine a Hanes Park that retains the same amount of green space and becomes more attractive and more functional. Perhaps having a multipurpose field with proper facilities would allow Winston-Salem to showcase various sports tournaments, such as field hockey, lacrosse, soccer and football, all in a beautiful and natural setting.
Creativity goes a long way; polarization keeps tactful thought processes from occurring. A win-win might be right in the middle of all this.
GREG HUNTER
Winston-Salem
Wondering
I wonder how many PETA members would volunteer to take the place of a research animal such as the 8-pound macaque from the Wake Forest Primate Center ("Monkey is back safe and sound," July 11). Most advances in medicine have been found using animals rather than humans in order to find a solution to a problem.
I wonder how many animals PETA kills in its animal shelters. I wonder how long PETA keeps those animals, trying to find them a home, before deciding they must go.
Sometimes to wonder is good.
VINCENT KOROLL
Clemmons
Dismissive phrase
In the conclusion of your July 8 editorial "'School choice' is right, but more can be done," you dismissed the positive results of possibly the most important Supreme Court decision of the second half of the last century by saying "forced busing for integration was not the answer."
First, "forced busing" is the wrong phrase — no one is or was "forced" to ride a bus. The bus is provided so that students attending a school farther away than walking distance can get there without having to have a parent drive them.
I am a product of the "forced busing" in the Winston-Salem/Forsyth County school system from 1973 to 1986. I attended the one school I could walk to (Whitaker Elementary) and then rode the bus to Kimberly Park ("forced busing" presumably because it was on the "other side" of town), Jefferson Middle School (unforced busing because much too far to walk, but it was the closest middle school to my house), Paisley High School (again "forced busing") and Reynolds Senior High School (unforced busing — unless the car my brother and I shared was working, then we drove).
Buses helped facilitate "forced integration," which most certainly was the answer to the separate and unequal education system that it replaced. Reducing the forced integration of our city's and nation's schools, an event that changed the lives of millions of children for the better, to "forced busing" is both inaccurate and misleading.
JOHN COMBS
Winston-Salem
Good question, wrong answer
I appreciate the letter "Where are they?" (July 18) asking why, if cigarette commercials have been taken off the air because of their bad influence on youth, there are still alcohol commercials, which have as much or more influence on youth. I think that's a good question.
The writer answers his question: Big Government, that's why. I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. Alcohol commercials aren't on the air because of government; they're on the air because of Big Commerce. Because of money. Because of the free market, which has, with alcohol ads, withstood the government efforts that did away with cigarette ads.
Great question. Wrong answer.
TOMMY H. SIMMONS
Winston-Salem
Finish the Thought:
Briefly complete the sentence below and send it to us atletters@wsjournal.com. We'll print some of the results in a few days. Only signed entries, please — no anonymous ones.
"Critics say Obama is un-American because ..."
Need an ID to vote in some states, but don't need an ID to buy 6,000 rounds of ammunition online, makes sense to me.
ReplyDeleteSo which happens more voter fraud or illegal sells and purchases of weapons?
Deleteand before you say the monster in Colorado purchased his weapons and ammo legally, I know. My question is not about him, it's about voter ID and the illegal purchase of weapons in the US.
DeleteI agree. How in the world can you vote in any state without an I.D.?
DeleteAsk the Democrats. They'll tell you why. They want to be sure they win. They want to allow illegals to vote. Any why are illegals and Hispanics voting for Democrats? Because Democrats are buying their votes by promising amnesty, the Dream Act, or some other benefit from the government. In most foreign countries we'd call that corruption. But here, the Democrats just call that business as usual.
We have been voting without ID for over 200 years. Which happens more, voter fraud or the illegal sale and purchase of guns?
Deleteone needs an ID to VOTE but one can give unlimited amounts of money anonymously to get someone elected? It's all a Republican ruse and no one is fooled.
DeleteThe number of citizen's disenfranchised in November will be trouble. It'll make Florida 2000 forgettable.
DeleteThe American Eagle has two wings, a left and a right, and it takes both working together in order to fly. We need to make this bird fly again.
DeleteThere's more voter fraud than illegal purchases of guns, Bob.
DeleteThe American Eagle was designed to fly free, not with a bunch of people riding on its back.
DeleteProve it, bucky. You Can't.
DeleteName the number of voter fraud convictions in the last 10 years?
DeleteYou prove your statement then! I defy you!
DeleteAnd I'll bet that redneck in Yadkinville sold more guns to felons and illegal aliens just by himself.
DeleteI have to prove nothing to you. Defy that!!!
DeleteSame here. However, consider yourself defied!
DeleteWow, Phargo, that's pretty serious stuff...you've been defied!!!
DeleteAccording to a study just released in New York, about nine million guns are sold publicly in the US each year.
Of those, about 40% are sold at gun shows and on the internet, which is fast becoming the biggest problem in gun sales. Of those, 64% are illegal sales.
So about 2.3 million guns sold illegally in the US each year.
The study stresses that it only covered public sales. Private sales could easily double the number, or more.
So you've been defied, but you won the argument, as always.
"Of those, about 40% are sold at gun shows and on the internet, which is fast becoming the biggest problem in gun sales. Of those, 64% are illegal sales."
DeleteTalk about cut and paste! Tisk, Tisk Rushy!
All liberal hyperbole. Those stats can't be verified.
INTERVIEWER: Mr. Dunce, do you prefer to be enlightened or do you prefer to be ignorant?
DeleteDUNCE: I prefer to be ignorant. It is my natural state.
Ha, ha! Ain't that the truth. As stated, the numbers above come from a new report which was commissioned by and paid for by seven different law enforcement agencies. They take a great interest in such matters, because, unlike Dunce, who deals with nothing but his own paranoid bullshit, they actually have to deal with the problem of way too many guns in the hands of way too many fools, from hard core criminals to CCW sissy boys...all the same to them.
The report is not quite finished, in that the percentage figures still need to be added. I calculated those from the raw numbers in the report, so there was no cut and paste. I actually had to read the whole report, something beyond Dunce's limited capabilities.
Cutting and pasting nonsense is Dunce's specialty.
Who do you think you're fooling Buckboy? I didn't flush my first toilet yesterday you know.
Delete"We don't live in a fantasy world and we understand that in the House it's a much tougher lift. The House has moved too far to the right that it's essentially a subsidiary of the NRA," or the National Rifle Association, he told CNN.
Delete___________
Hey, but some of your liberal friends live in a fantasy world. One of them is the forum NW, AKA Rush.
Critics say Obama is un-American because ... they don't know any better.
ReplyDelete. . . waiting to hear from Bucky on this one
Obama is un-American. America was built on individual self-reliance. Not a bunch of people jumping in a wagon, and telling others to pull.
DeleteRugged individualism may have worked when the population was 5 million when America was built, but we have over 300,000,000 people now and the government was formed to take care of all it's citizens.
DeleteEverybody can't get in the wagon Bob. Wake up.
DeleteI have to fight illegal Mexicans just to get treated at my doctor anymore.
DeleteWhen is it going to stop Bob?
I don't believe you and it's not going to stop so deal with it.
DeleteIf you have to "fight" to see a doctor, I would change doctors. I have never had to fight to see a doctor.
DeleteOne illegal female Mexican brings in five crumb crunchers to see my doctor, and my wait time goes way up!
DeleteHow many more crumb crunchers are we going to allow in Bob?
as many as it takes.
DeleteIn the emergency rooms, there's more Mexicans than there are gringos and African Americans. Hello!!!????
DeleteI would never send women with children back to a war zone. It's inhumane no matter what it costs.
DeleteObamacare ain't going to take care of that Bob.
DeleteI know all about emergency rooms. I'm there and my cousin has worked in the Baptist Emergency room for over 30 years. M. Pulliam,and yes, distant relatives with Harvey.
DeleteWill just see now won't we.
DeleteSo you would send women and children to a war zone?
DeleteBob, you're going to have use some linking language for that one?
Deleteyou never could answer to tough questions.
DeleteI generally like to know what the question is before I start trying to answer it. Is that too tough for you to understand?
DeleteCome on Bob. I've got a weed-eater that runs faster than your brain.
DeleteWould you send Mexican women with their children back to a war zone, with is Mexico, where more people have died from violence in the past 10 years than US soldiers killed in Vietnam? Did you God make man in His own image?
Delete"Joy and rapture, I have a brain."
DeletePlease! I've been to Mexico many times, and I can assure you people are not hiding under their beds down there.
DeleteBucky, somehow your assurances are never comforting.
DeleteIf you 'really' knew me, they would be.
Deleteno matter where they are hiding, it is still a war zone.
DeleteThat's the whole point, Bucky, I don't really know you. I'm open, honest, and transparent. You know my name and where I live. But I understand fear, it's taught often and early to children, but I am no longer a child.
DeleteI've been war zones Bob. And Mexico is not a war zone. Could you minimize the hyperbole Bob? You're not dealing with a blunt Democrat on the other side of the internet here.
DeleteGeez!
I'll take that as a yes.
DeleteYou're related to Harvey, Bob? I wouldn't advertise that fact if I were you. ;-)
DeleteA fair chunk of my ancestors were from Yadkin County, but I don't go around talking about it, you know?
lol, then we're probably related too, Arthur, especially if your ancestors are from Virginia.
DeleteSome of mine came with the Second Charter of Virginia in 1609 and so I am related distantly to a lot of people, some fortunate, some not so fortunate.
DeleteDunce doesn't have a doctor. His doctor is the emergency room. He just said so.
DeleteI have a real doctor. If I wake up sick, I call my doctor's office and he sees me the same day. And if they say to come at 2:15, then I am seen at 2:15.
Dunce also has a rich imagination, which is surprising, because normally a brain of some sort is required in order to imagine things.
My sister was injured in an automobile accident a few months ago, so I went to the emergency room to make sure that she was all right. About 60% of those waiting for care were white, about 20% were black and about 20% were Latinos.
I guess when Dunce lies we can consider that just another "trivial mistake". And its not his fault, because he heard Rush Limbaugh say it.
Probably. There are Links up and down the Shenandoah Valley.
DeleteThose of us whose ancestors are western European are all descended from Charlemagne.
DeleteGoing back farther, we are all descended from Nefertiti (b. 1370 BCE-d. 1330 BCE), the Queen and Great Royal Wife of the Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaten.
She and her husband created the first known monotheistic religion, centuries before Judaism. They worshiped only Aten, the sun.
Aren't we lucky to have such a good looking great-grandmaⁿ? The bust is 3,300 years old, made of painted limestone.
Nefertiti
Be serious Rush. Everybody knows you were born on a bathroom floor in a sleazy gay bar somewhere, and your ancestors came from Greenwich Village. Okay?
DeleteFor all the richly deserved criticism aimed at him, we must admit that Dunce is a class act, huh?
DeleteAs to being born in Greenwich Village, I could only wish. It would be a great honor to be associated with the people who were born there, or grew up there or who lived there for a significant length of time, a very partial list of whom follows:
Bob Dylan, Morena Baccarin, Joan Baez, Annie Leibovitz, Tim Robbins, Thomas Paine, Amy Sedaris, Leontyne Price, E.E. Cummings, Hans Hoffman, Margaret Sanger, Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Orbach, Pete Seeger, Jeff Buckley, Paul Stookey and Peter Yarrow, Mabel Dodge Luhan, Jack Kerouac, Lenny Bruce, Henry James, Thomas Wolfe, Allen Ginsberg, Edna St. Vincent Millay, Phil Ochs, Edward Hopper, Willa Cather, Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney, Gregory Corso, Jane Bowles, Tom Paxton, Derek Walcott, Hart Crane, Odetta, Eugene O'Neill, Frank O'Hara, Delmore Schwartz, Willem de Kooning, Max Eastman, William S. Burroughs, James Baldwin, Truman capote, Marianne Moore, Dylan Thomas and Albert Pinkham Ryder.
Not to mention that the Village is home to one of the world's great universities, NYU, and was the center of the jazz and folk music universe in the 1950s and 1960s, with such great clubs as the Blue Note, Upstairs at the Downstairs, Downstairs at the Upstairs, the Village Vanguard, the Village Gate, the Bitter End, Cafe Au Go Go, the Gaslight Cafe and many others.
It was the birthplace of the Whitney Museum, the world's best collection of modern American art and is still the home of the New York Studio School of Drawing, Painting and Sculpture, one of the best art schools in the world, founded in the mid-1960s. My friends and I attended the opening reception.
There in the 1960s and early 1970s, we saw live and in person, in addition to Dylan, Baez and Peter, Paul and Mary, such great musicians as Jimi Hendrix, Barbra Streisand, Bette Midler, Simon & Garfunkel, James Taylor, Maria Muldaur, Joni Mitchell and Nina Simone.
Oh, and don't forget the Cherry Lane Theater, the oldest off-Broadway venue, founded in a former farm silo in 1924, and the Oscar Wilde Bookshop, opened in the 1960s.
Unfortunately today real estate prices are so high in the Village that most of the clubs are gone, but some of the most famous people in the world still live there.
I am aware that a low class person like Dunce probably has never heard of most of these people, places or things. I guess Hannity is more his speed. His loss.
I do like Hannity, and I like Rep. Allen West even more. He's one sharp dude.
DeleteRush, compared to Congressman West, your brain isn't the size of pygmy shrew's. I don't know why you're so delusional.
@Bucky from:
ReplyDeletePhargoJuly 20, 2012 11:27 PM
No, you will give a damn about my posts, like it or not.
For Phargo is the "posting master" of this forum
Wordly: If Zimmerman were female, do you think he would have been treated in the same manner?
DeleteOne thing about a woman with a gun, I like-is that you know if you mess with them, they're going to shoot you. You don't have to start banging their heads on a piece of concrete to that's going to happen.
DeleteComparison intended.
If Zimmerman were a female, then she would have probably minded her own business. Now suppose if Zimmerman were not an idiot.
DeleteZimmerman was smart enough to win the fight to save his life. So, he's pretty smart to me.
DeleteIf he were really smart, he wouldn't have been in the situation to begin with. Now that's smart.
DeleteSame for Martin. Why didn't he just take his skittles and go to where he was staying, instead of jumping Zimmerman?
DeleteI don't know that he did.
DeleteYou seem to know what Zimmerman did, why don't you know what Martin did?
DeleteThese gang bangers like Tupac et al....they're all billy-bad-ass until they take a bullet, and then things go quiet real quick.
DeleteI don't know what either did.
DeleteI just hope the trial is swift and fair and over with soon.
DeleteWhy do you have the opinion that Zimmerman did something? You need to keep your mouth shut if you don't have a clue about something. I know that's the Democrat way-to start babbling away about something you know nothing about, but give it a break. Okay?
DeleteDid something wrong?
DeleteHe did do something, whether it was criminal or not is to be determined in a court of law.
DeleteKeep my mouth shut, good luck with that.
DeleteI left off 'wrong', that's why I added that statement.
DeleteBased on your previous posts, you obviously think Zimmerman did something wrong. Yet you say you don't know what happened. What's up with that Bob?
To which statements do you refer?
DeleteAll of them.
DeleteWell that's Bullshit.
DeleteI don't think so Bob. You're on the record.
DeleteYes, I am. On the record that I don't know what happened and that it should be resolved in a court of law. I've said that from the very beginning.
DeleteI don't know why you and Rush like to get your asses flapping around in the wind by making these wild, unsupported statements, but you two do.
DeleteIf you have other statements to the contrary, I'll be glad to review them.
DeleteOkay, I take a look, and I'll cite some of your statements that infer or directly imply/state that Zimmerman did something wrong in the shooting.
DeleteI've gotta run Bob. Daylight is burning. I'll be back later.
and I'm having lunch with a friend. tootles.
DeleteWhitewall, thanks for answers my question about realestate and carried interest the other day. Have to borrow computer on trip and don't have a lot of time or opportunity to contribute as my Kindle Fire will not let me post here for some reason.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome. I figured it was best to give that example rather than me make a hash of an explanation. You must be on a heck of a trip.
DeleteAha, Michele Bachmann received a $1000 donation from HSBC which also launders money for Al Qaeda. Perhaps an investigation IS in order.
ReplyDeleteGod only knows how much money Obama is receiving from foreign entities.
DeleteThere are no deities.
DeleteProve it.
Deletedefied.
DeleteDouble defied, and I'll raise you another.
DeleteAll in.
DeleteI call, you prove it!
DeleteHmm, seems you're a few chips short of a stack.
DeleteSeems???
Delete;-D
DeleteLaSombra: our forum John Nash
DeleteMore political correctness gone awry.
ReplyDeleteUniversity of Indiana Southeast free speech policy:
IUS's code also requires university approval for acts of 'expressed opinions' by submitting an application at least five days in advance.
Looks like we're headed toward a socialist/communist style government to me.
As always, Dunce rattles on about matters he knows nothing about.
ReplyDelete1. Socialism and communism are quite different theories, so cannot be addressed as socialist/communist.
2. Dunce is confusing political theories with some of the countries that have tried them. Restrictions on speech are not a part of either socialist or communist theory.
What else is new?
Truly, O.T., but understandable somewhat for those who really don't know what communism and socialism are because they both trace back to Marx. It's like saying Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are all the same because they all trace back to the God of Abraham.
DeleteI've been to the former Soviet Union, China, and to Venezuela. I know what I'm talking about. I doubt either of you two chatter boxes can say the same.
DeleteI'm guessing that you know this from "thousands" of illegal immigrants?
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Deletenon sequitur, Bucky
DeleteI swim in the Ocean, doesn't make me a fish.
DeleteDunce has been to a lot of public restrooms, as well. I guess that makes him a banging buck.
Deletegood point.
DeleteLaSombra, Dunce does not deal in numbers that small. You should have said millions.
DeleteI almost didn't get to vote in the recent primary because there were so many illegal immigrants in line down at the board of elections.
By my count there were 31,317 of them. There were 3 actual white people, 2 Lumbee Indians, 11 blacks and a guy who looked like W. Bush. Turned out to be Alfred E. Neuman. I knew he doesn't live here, so challenged his right to vote, but the Democrats in charge said they didn't care who voted as long as hey voted the straight Democratic ticket.
Since all the same people as before won, I guess it didn't matter.
Bunky does deal in small numbers; at least "thousandS" is the number he threw out when he confidently asserted last year that illegal immigrants confided in him that they actually voted in our elections. He is incapable of counting any higher than that.
DeleteI have no doubt that number is easily in the thousands LaSombra, but I'll admit, I can't prove it. Why? Because noboby is policing the elections.
DeleteThat's why I hope Jimmy Carter monitors our election in November.
Sorry LaSombra, you're right, he did. Usually its millions...I mean when you're making it all up anyway, why not go for the big bucks.
DeleteAs to policing the elections, they have been policed for well over 200 years by the same method...when you walk into any polling place, there are members of both major parties watching everything that goes on. If there is the slightest suspicion, somebody will most definitely speak up.
Since Dunce does not participate in any civic activities, he is always unaware of how the simplest things work. He prefers listening to Rush Limbaugh and parroting his hate.
It could be in the millions. I'm not sure, and nobody else is either. That's the problem.
DeleteDemocrats wanted to keep counting votes until Al Gore won in 2000.
We need to get a better handle on our elections. We send Carter to other countries to monitor elections, but ours are a mess too.
Liberals in Colorado almost made a big mistake back in 2009. I know, what's the big deal, right-they're always making mistakes.
ReplyDeleteWell, it was your typical scenario where liberals tell everybody else, that they know best, and that death penalty is just too heinous and offensive as a punishment or penalty for any criminal act.
Then, in 2012, along comes James Holmes, who murders 12 people, and injures 59. Under the liberals' perspective, we should be giving Mr. Holmes three meals and a cot for the next 40 years for his 'alleged' crimes. However, because the death penalty was saved from liberals' votes, by mostly conversatives, Mr. Holmes faces the death penalty.
Since we have a minority president, I know there will screams of racism if we put this white person to death, because after all, Mr. Holmes is a 'future' minority in America. But, I have a feeling the death penalty will pursued in spite of Mr. Holmes' future minority status.
Yes...., liberals are never out of breath when it comes their incessant chants for more of their illogical and ill-advised decisions on various matters. We must be forever vigilant in order to maintain sanity, from the liberals' push, for an insane world.
Because remember-it just never stops.
It's easy to tie in events to the Liberals, isn't it, Bunky?
DeleteYes it is LaSombra. They're always up to no good.
DeleteCareful, bucky, your IP address is showing again.
DeleteInteresting, a former classmate of Romney claims he used to impersonate a police officer and would put a cherry top on his car and pull people over.
ReplyDeleteHa, ha! No wonder Dunce loves Mitty so much…both cop wannabes.
DeleteMaybe when Mitty wins, he will get the old Nixon White House guards uniforms out of mothballs and wear one himself. They looked like something out of the Duchy of Grand Fenwick.
After they were laughed into storage, Alice Cooper tried to get five of them for his band to wear. 80 of the 150 were lent to the Southern Utah State College marching band for a while. They had to sign a document saying that they wouldn't lend any of them to Cooper.
Politics aside, there's something about Romney that just creeps me out. Kind of a Stepford/Invasion of the Body Snatchers type vibe.
DeleteStepford is right on the money. One of my favorite photo ops was the golden couple riding on their $25,000 jet ski and waving like a beauty queen in a parade that has gone on too long.
DeleteWant to see real life Stepford wives up close and personal, just visit Calvary Baptist Church any Sunday morning.
Arthur, I agree. He's like suped-up John Kerry.
DeleteHey, but he's our only hope. It's either him, or economic collapse. It's your future Arthur.
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DeleteHelp me obi wan kenobe, you're our only hope. "these are not the tax returns you are looking for."
DeleteI'd like for Obama to release how many pounds of pot he's smoked, and how much cocaine he's snorted or smoked.
DeleteBucky's mom: I wish my son were not a fool.
DeleteI wish my house was not a mess.
I wish the cow was full of milk.
I wish the walls were full of gold--
I wish a lot of things..
(to Bucky) You foolish child! What in heaven's name are you doing with the
cow inside the house?
Bucky: A warm environment might be just what Milky White needs to produce
Deletehis milk.
Bucky's Mother: It's a she! How many times do I have to tell you? Only
"she"s can give milk.
Into the woods,
DeleteIt's time to go,
I hate to leave,
I have to, though.
Into the woods--
It's time, and so
I must begin my journey.
The only difference between Obama and Marion Barry is that we don't have a video of him smoking crack cocaine.
DeleteMarion Barry was never a Senator, he wasn't born in Hawaii, he didn't go to Harvard or teach at the University of Chicago, so your statement is false.
DeleteBut that's par for the course.
DeleteI was making a drug use comparison. So my statement IS correct. Thank you very much.
DeleteGeeez...it just never stops.
Fox News caught plagiarizing a childrens website, admits no fault
ReplyDeleteYou don't want me to walk through that door, now do you, Bob?
Deleteyou can do as you please, walk into the door for all I care.
DeleteSpeak of copy and paste and admit no fault mentality and look who pops up. Dunce would fit right in at FoxLies®.
DeleteThey also got caught Memorial Day weekend when their brilliant columnist Oliver North (yes, he's still alive) plagiarized an NYU professor.
And back in January, they lifted an entire news story from the New Times Broward-Palm Beach website. How ironic...New Times Broward-Palm Beach is owned by that weed smoker's haven the Village Voice.
he can drive down the street and turn into a parking lot, as well.
DeleteIt's funny that the two liberal chatter boxes seem to have joined forces against me. I guess they've figured out they can't take me on, individually.
DeleteHee...Hee...you gotta love it. Hey, why don't you boys go out buy some tennis rackets, you'd be more competitive?
Oh dear! And people wonder why our country is on the brink of destruction.
It's more fun having you play with our "cocks."
DeletePardon me!?
DeleteYou get a little out of control at times Bob. This isn't a gay chat room.
Deleteyou have no idea!!!!
Deleteyou can't play badminton with the cocks.
Deletewithout
DeleteYou're just digging yourself deeper into a hole. And don't take that in the gay sense either!
Deletetalk to da hand.
Delete"If Sarah Palin isn't enough of a reason for you to get over whatever your problem is with Barack Obama, then you damn well had better pay attention. Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through."
ReplyDeleteRep. Alcee Hastings (D) 23 Congressional District of Florida
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Rush has the audacity to speak ill of a fine American patriot like Rep. Allen West (R) of the 22nd Congressional District of Florida, who served our country with distinction. Yet, right next door to West's district is this despicable member of congress, Democrat Alcee Hastings. Hasting was a former federal judge, appointed by none other than Jimmy Carter, however, his judgeship ended when he was impeached and removed by a Democratically controlled congress.
If Hastings can some day no longer run for congress in his district, I suggest A-n-t-h-o-n-y WEINER to replace him. He is of the same immoral fiber.
General Benedict Arnold distinguished himself too.
Deletethat is until he put on the Red State Coat.
DeleteI'm comparing apples to apples Bob. If you don't mind?
Deleteohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I wish I was ..... sing it liberals!
Deletea little cake of soap, oh I wish I was a little cake of soap, I would slippy and I'd slidy over everybody's hidey or I wish I was a little cake of soap, Oh I wish I was a little slice of orange, Oh I wish I was a little slice of orange, I would squeezey and I'd squirtey over everybody's shirty, oh I wish I was a little slice of orange. Oh I wish I was a birdy in a tree, Oh I wish I was birdy in a tree, I would sit up on a steeple and spit upon the people, oh I wish I was a birdy in the tree. Oh I wish I was a little keg of beer, Oh, I wish I was a little keg of beer, I would go down with a slurp and come up with a burp, oh I wish I was a little keg of beer.
Delete'SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA'!
DeleteI love that ad. I knew that was going to resurface.
Allen West was convicted of committing war crimes and had to resign from the Army. I wouldn't exactly call that "serving with distinction".
DeleteHeroes don't torture prisoners. Heroes handle whatever pressure comes their way like men. Pussy West couldn't.
The commanding general of the 4th Infantry Division on Friday accepted a U.S. military investigator's recommendation and ordered administrative action against Lt. Col. Allen West, who was accused of using improper methods to force information out of an Iraqi detainee.
DeleteFollowing a military hearing, West was fined $5,000 over two months, according to West's civillian attorney
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Hardly a conviction for war crimes. And, he was just following orders.
Just like the Germans, right?
DeleteEven West admitted to his wrong doing.
Delete$5,000 is nothing. It was so the Army could save face.
DeleteHe retired honorably, and he's an honorable man, unlike Rush.
DeleteI hate to see these sleaze-balls, like Rush, criticize a good, former soldier.
DeleteI hate to see former soldiers go bad and then become congressmen.
Deleteanything you can do, I can do better
DeleteI can do anything better than you
He didn't go bad. He was following orders and then a bunch no-good liberals came along and stirred up a bunch of BS. That's what happened.
DeleteHe's a fine American/Congressmen and a good former soldier.
Alcee Hastings it the criminal. He was removed from his Judge's positon for bribery and perjury. What a Judge! And he's a congressman? Please!
Of course it's normal for Democrats to do such things, so it's no big deal to them.
DeleteI think Gohmert's pile was a judge too was he not, maybe a JAG
DeleteI know Alcee Hastings was. And a sorry one at that.
DeleteWest accused 80 some members of congress of being communists, lol, what a maroon.
DeleteUnder normal circumstances, military prosecutors do not comment after a case has been resolved.
DeleteIn the case of West's war crimes, the prosecutors did issue a statement:
"He should have been given a general court martial and sent to Leavenworth."
Why did they say this? Because they were aware that the Army was trying to cover up a war crime and got away with it. They knew that West would resign, because his career was over at that point, but by doing it the way they did, they would not have to admit that an Army officer was a war criminal.
As Army officers themselves, the prosecutors were embarrassed by the fact that the Army would allow West to walk, knowing he should have been sent to prison.
The usual sleazy shit.
As to Dunce's claim that West was only following orders...no Army officer in recent times has been ordered to torture a POW, much less a mere detainee, as this man, an Iraqui police officer, was. Dunce lives in a fantasy world, just like James Egan Holmes, and because of that, may be a danger to the general public.
Of course now we know, from his many insane statements, that West could have pleaded insanity.
When Dunce praises people like West and Killer, all he is doing is revealing to us his own deep insanity.
We had Nancy Pelosi lying about what she knew and when she knew it. And a whole bunch of other Democrats were right smack dab in the middle of it. In short, it was all just a bunch of liberal horse shit. And everybody knows it.
DeleteSo stop it with your liberal BS.
Rep. Allen West is a war HERO, not a war criminal.
I'd give him a hug right now if he were standing next to me.
Bucky July 21, 2012 10:54 AM
ReplyDeleteObama is un-American. America was built on individual self-reliance. Not a bunch of people jumping in a wagon, and telling others to pull.
Oh boy, does Dunce live in a world of pure fantasy or what?
How did the Jamestown settlers and the Puritans get to America? If we are talking self-reliance, they must have either swam or rowed across the Atlantic in individual rowboats.
The Puritans' voyage was financed by a company formed by wealthy venture capitalist Thomas Weston. It was a straight up business deal. In return, they were expected to send him furs and other items of value.
Once they got to Plymouth, things looked pretty good. They didn't have to buy land; they just took it. But they were religious zealots, not farmers, so they would have starved without help from the local Indians. Once they had learned the ways of agriculture from their hosts, they rewarded them by wiping them out.
The Jamestown expedition was paid for by another group of wealthy venture capitalists known as the Virginia Company. The settlers were organized like a military company. Except for the officers, most of them were indentured servants. So much for self reliance.
Captain John Smith tried to convince them that they should focus on basic agriculture until they had reached a subsistence level, but pressure from the investors and their own personal greed led them to focus on tobacco, a valuable crop, instead. They expected to trade tobacco to the Indians for food.
But Powathan was much smarter than the Plymouth Indian leaders. He realized that the settlers were a deadly threat to him and his people. So he refused to trade.
So in the winter of 1609-10, all but 60 of the original 500 settlers died, mostly from starvation. Had not supplies arrived from England in the spring of 1609, Jamestown would have disappeared. So much for self reliance.
In 1619, a Portuguese slave ship left what is now Angola, with a cargo of about 350 slaves bound for Veracruz. Off the coast of Mexico, two British pirate ships robbed them of about 50 slaves, most of whom were sold some weeks later at Jamestown. For the next 250 years or so, much of the work of "building America" would be performed by black Africans owned by those self reliant white men.
What about those brave pioneers who helped to expand the nation from sea to shining sea. Well, as soon as they started "settling" the West, they found that there were already other people living there who resented them mightily. When the Indians began attacking, you know what they did…of course, they exercised their 2nd Amendment rights and fought the Indians all by themselves, one self reliant man at a time.
Not really. Actually, they called on good old Uncle Sam. The west was not won by sod busters and cattlemen. It was won by the U.S. Cavalry, at taxpayer expense.
Of course, today all Americans are self reliant heroes. Except for the ones who attend public schools at someone else's expense. And the ones who attend community colleges and state universities at someone else's expense.
And the ones who go to work for the government at someone else's expense. And the ones who go to work for subsidized businesses like oil companies and banks and auto and aircraft manufacturers at someone else's expense.
And those who use our bridges and highways at someone else's expense. And those who use our water and sewer system at someone else's expense. And those who are protected by our military and our fire and police officers at someone else's expense. And on and on, at someone else's expense.
Individual self reliance? Give me a break. If all of the things mentioned above shut down tomorrow, the average "self reliant" American wouldn't last more than few weeks.
All irrelevant, a tirade of of gibberish to divert attention away from Obama's failure to lead our country out of an economic crisis.
DeleteHe's a failure as president. I like him as a human being, but he's not presidential material.
It's time to move on.
sorry, that's history and none of it is irrelevant on this site, without history, we wouldn't be here after all.
DeleteDoing all this genealogy research, I've found out a lot. Wes is always talking about his ancestors that fought in the Civil War, which mean his ancestors were taking orders from mine, Robert E. Lee.
DeleteI can't wait, lol.
DeleteLa buckaracha la buckaracha
ReplyDeleteYa no puede caminar
Porque no tiene
Porque le falta
Marijuana que fumar.
I'd like to see Obama smoking a crack pipe on video. I bet that'd slow up his campaign.
DeleteI'd like to see Obama smoking a crack pipe on video. I bet that'd slow up his campaign.
DeleteSorry, that post was slow to go through. I guess Obama's campaign didn't want to see that get posted.
Deletejust a jedi mind trick
DeleteDisagree...god's will...that's what it was.
DeleteIt went through. So I guess God wanted it posted.
Deletewhat do you think,Bucky? Did God make man in His own image?
DeleteWhen the liberal media hears the word 'vet' concerning Obama, they think he had a Vette. That's how ridiculous it's gotten.
DeleteYou can pull that carrot up, Bob. I'm not a rabbit.
DeletePolly want a cracker?
DeleteWell, bucky, I've had a great time.... but this wasn't it.
DeleteHa, ha! If there actually was a god, the last thing that he would take an interest in is the Dunce.
DeleteHe would be far more interested in who wins the Super Bowl. Ask any team that has ever played in that endlessly momentous event.
You two are like the gang that can't shot straight.
DeleteThe two, like minded, chatter boxes-squawking and pooping all over everything, like two geese in a wedding reception. Typical liberal nonsense.
and you, like a typical conservative, keep coming back to get pooped on. When will they ever learn.
DeleteHad not supplies arrived from England in the spring of 1609...
ReplyDeleteOf course, that should be 1610.
My irrelevant tirade wasn't about President Obama, as anyone can plainly see…well, almost anyone…I suppose a rudimentary brain, or at least some abortive brain-like organ is required to "plainly see" anything.
ReplyDeleteIt was about Dunce's ridiculous remark about "individual self reliance", one of the great American myths still the stock in trade of those whose view of history was formed by the propaganda machine known as "American history" as presented by "American schools".
Every school boy/girl "knows" that history…about the wonderful Pilgrims who fled religious persecution in Europe and came to ★★★America★★★ to practice their religion freely and made friends with the Indians, especially the wonderful Squanto (origin of the name Tonto in the Lone Ranger?), and held the ★★★FIRST THANKSGIVING★★★ with their dear Indian friends (Is there any elementary school classroom in the nation that does not feature that hideous horn-of-plenty poster every year around T'giving time? Do the kiddies know that the "plenty" came almost exclusively from the dear Indian friends?).
And once having established themselves, those same wonderful persecuted christians began killing and torturing and persecuting those same dear Indian friends (heathens) and Quakers and Anabaptists (Baptists too) and anyone else who did not look and think just like them (Oops, the school boys/girls are not supposed to know about that).
And every school boy/girl knows about the "tragedy" of ★★★Custer's Last Stand★★★ and the boy general himself, handsome, debonair, with his long, wavy blonde, gay-boy pro wrestler locks.
And they know that his last stand came about due to his arrogance and some very bad "military intelligence" and decision making, and they know that hardly anyone knew about Custer's Last Stand until some years later when Buffalo Bill's Wild West, utilizing some of the very same savages who had helped kill Custer, began presenting a highly fictional reenactment of that soon to be famous event (Oops, again, they're not supposed to know any of that last part).
Every nation indoctrinates its school children with its own fictionalized version of "history". Greek children are taught that Greece was the founding father of Western Civilization, whatever that is. Of course, they are also taught that Greece is still at the forefront, a "fact" that some of them may be beginning to doubt at the moment.
In the USA, Texas is always at the cutting edge of knowledge. A couple of years ago, some wise men in the state legislature attempted to purge any mention of slavery from their public school textbooks. Out of sight, out of mind.
But Russia takes the cake. School boys/girls in Russia read a history of World War II in Europe that is obviously not the same war as American school boys/girls study. Unfortunately for American school boys/girls, the Russian version is considerably more accurate.
When it comes to history, there are two kinds of people…those who want to know and those who think they already do.
That is what my irrelevant tirade was about.
The Russians are selling a bunch of Mosin Nagants and Veprs at cheap prices in case you're interested Rush.
DeleteThey're all over the U.S. now. Better tell Hillary to hurry up with that Treaty....hee..hee. You gotta love it.
Yes, how the military does like to cover up it's "bad boys." In the early 80's while living in Nashville, TN, I was dating a sailor who was discharged. He was the Postmaster General at Gitmo and was caught trafficking drugs. Instead of a court martial, he got a general discharge. His father was a Colonel in the Army.
ReplyDeleteBut while West's supporters call him a hero, military prosecutors said his actions amounted to torture and violated articles 128 and 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
ReplyDeleteProsecutor Capt. Magdalena Pezytulska said West should be tried for assault and for communicating a threat. "This is a case about a man who lost his temper," she argued. "There are consequences for [West's] actions."
When West testified that he had "no malice toward Hamoody" and that he "just wanted information," Pezytulska presented a document of West's typed statement following the August incident. She asked him to read his own written words to the court: "In my anger, I couldn't remember how many shots were fired."