Anybody that knows anything about voting in America knows we've got big problems.
While Hillary Clinton spent her time criticizing the recent Russian elections, she should have been over here trying to help clean up our own elections, and voter registration procedures.
Thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants have registered to vote in the United States. Why? Because you simply have to sign a form stating that you are a U.S. citizen. There is no vetting process. We've allowed our own system of voting to be corrupted through sloppiness and incompetence.
One only has to look at ACORN and other 'registration' groups at or near the border to see that corruption is rampant.
Many people say, why haven't there been many prosecutions because of voter fraud if it's so rampant? My answer is because we don't really investigate voter fraud. There's no real agency set up to investigate these crimes, and most local, state, and federal agencies don't have the time to properly do so.
Something is really wrong in America where we have requirements for identity to do most anything in America, but yet, we don't have voter I.D. laws.
Democrats simply want to maintain the status quo of political corruption and voter fraud in order to maintain power
I've read a lot of stories about the elderly having difficulty in getting a voter ID but I haven't heard of one case of voter fraud that has been prevented. Of course over a 5 year period, with over 300 million votes cast, the Bush Administration charged just 120 people with voter fraud and convicted 86.
My mother has two very different legal names. She has a driver's license and Social Security Card with the name she wants to be known by, and a birth certificate and U.S. passport with the names the doctor who delivered her wrote on her birth certificate.
These names except for her maiden last name are are totally different. She also has two residences in two different states. I believe if she wanted to she could easily register to vote it two states and vote against Obama twice in 2012.
Her voter registration in Forsyth Co. has her listed with first name, middle initial "H" and last name. The middle initial "H" is from a previous marriage(many, many years ago) and she has no legal ID which exactly matches her registration.
There are probably many elderly people who have mismatches in their registration and ID due to the fact that records were not as carefully checked for accuracy as they are now. She got the name she wanted on her driver's license and social security card just simply by requesting it when she was a teenager.
The Obama Administration is 'SUING' states that are trying to help the federal government do its job regarding illegal immigration.
That should tell you where Democrats are on the issue of preventing voter fraud. Democrats don't care where the votes come from, and if they lead to more corruption, they simply want to maintain power, and further corrupt America.
The conduct by the Obama Administration's 'Justice' Department is literally outrageous!
@Bucky: Please quantify your assertion that "thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants have registered to vote in the United States". Based on previous requests I doubt that you can; you MIGHT come up with something that could PASS as an answer, so just humor me if you will.
Even if your assertion is indisputable, how many of those "thousands upon thousands" ACTUALLY VOTE? Certainly not "thousands upon thousands", otherwise the studies showing that there is NO evidence of widespread voter fraud (locally, statewide, or nationally) would be incorrect.
WASHINGTON, April 11 — Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud, the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections, according to court records and interviews. Although Republican activists have repeatedly said fraud is so widespread that it has corrupted the political process and, possibly, cost the party election victories, about 120 people have been charged and 86 convicted as of last year.
Interesting how many states are noticing "unintended consequences" due to new laws they passed. Tells me that too many are legislating out of emotion instead of logic. Wonder how many voters next year will look at the state legislators they elected in 2008 and say, "Oops! Didn't mean for them to get elected!"
Let's see. We can start with his idea to have a lunar colony that would mine minerals from the moon," Romney said.
"I'm proud of trying to find things that give young people a reason to study science and math and technology and telling them that some day in their lifetime, they could dream of going to the moon, they could dream of going to Mars," Gingrich said in response to Romney.
Gingrich economic plan:
Fire 75% of unionized janitors, replace them with child labor. Once they have learned to clean bathrooms, ship them to the moon, in the name of science and math, and have them mine lunar minerals.
A lawyer for a former Penn State assistant football coach accused of molesting boys says he didn't mean to refer to a gay sex phone line when he said anyone who believes university officials thought his client raped a 10-year-old boy and did little about it should call 1-800-REALITY.
The phrase is one attorney Joseph Amendola says he's used for years to mean "get a life." But the phone number is a sex line for gay and bi-curious men. ________________
"Rewriting my fav Shania Twain song.. Any man that tries Touching my behind He's gonna be a beaten, bleedin', heaving kind of guy ..."
Country music star Blake Shelton caused a stir earlier this year when he tweeted the above lyric, suggesting he would leave any guy that touched his butt "beaten" and "bleedin'." Gay rights advocates such as Glaad were outraged. Glaad asked producers of "The Voice" to demand that he apologize, adding that "one has to wonder how Shania feels about seeing her anthem about strong women and female empowerment turned into a violent threat."
* Looks like to me that Mr. Shelton was not unjustified in his comment based on recent events.
Reille....unlike you, my world view and experiences, go far beyond Forsyth County. So my statements are based on my personal observations, not liberal conjecture, and political correctness.
As usual, Buckback's "knowledge" ("based on my personal observations", he says) comes up far short of reality.
None of the events that occurred during Eve Carson's murder happened anywhere near the UNC campus. She was abducted from her off-campus home and murdered nearby.
One wonders why he would be so obsessed at having his ass leered at at the gym when he is so eager to show it every day on this site.
@Rush's 1720hrs: just as I predicted re Brokebuck Mountain (I like that name). His response re "thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants" registered to vote in the United States is based not in stats not studies but on his "world view and experiences" . . . in other words: his OPINION. TO INFINITY, AND BEYOND!!!!
Hey dotnet.......when you crawl out from under that liberal rock you're living under, take a read of 'Unintended Consequences' by John Ross. It's obvious you don't know diddly about gun rights and gun laws relative to the U.S. Constitution.
I invented 'Pac-man' in case you were wondering dotnet. Hee Hee....so many liberals, too little time.
Hey Rush, you idiot. School grounds could mean a lot things. To a lot people the entire City of Chapel Hill is 'school grounds'. But you wouldn't know. You probably went to Forsyth Tech at best.
Brokebuck cites Unintended Consequences as his source for information on gun laws. I'm sure that he doesn't know that it is a novel...made up stories, just like his whole life. It has many references to actual historic events...only problem is that most of that is made up too.
The book has sold about 60,000 copies in 15 years, which is just about right...probably about 4,000 nutcases take up reading each year.
"Also, what is the data on the Obama Administration's track record on stopping voter fraud?"
One more time, Brokebuck reveals his vast ignorance. Voting fraud is NOT the function of the federal government. That is state business.
The Federal Election Commission overseas campaign finance regulation. It has nothing to do with voter registration.
Each state has its own State Board of Elections. When there is an allegation of voting fraud, they are the ones that respond. And most have plenty of resources to investigate, including, in NC, the SBI in criminal cases.
The reason that there hasn't been much action anywhere regarding voting fraud is that such cases are very rare, except in the minds of the paranoid talking radio heads and their even more paranoid listeners.
If Brokebuck is going to post comments about the American political system, maybe he ought to enroll at Forsyth Tech. They have excellent courses in civics, and a lot of other stuff that he has never heard of.
Vote fraud appears to be perpetrated at a higher level for them most part, as in the Democratic theft of Illinois in the 1960 election, or the decried FL recount of 2000 that continued to erode Bush's lead in Dem precincts as Dem boards of elections "interpreted" votes. It was interesting, if predictable, to see the lead dwindle without fluctuation as the Dems "recounted." One would think there would have been some seesawing. Same thing happened in MN, leading to the "election" of the appalling Al Franken.
There is some retail vote fraud, like true-believing college students voting in both their hometowns and in their college towns. Folks who vote other than Dem simply cast one ballot and then go back to work.
Unfortunately, this season, the pickings are slim on the R side. Maybe I'll write myself in.
Arthur, the zombie shelter can be found on Robinhood Road. Littlejohn's Tavern kindly shelters them. They can be seen occasionally wobbling across the street to Pizza Hut, where I occasionally encounter one. They appear to be inoffensive, in the main.
Guns in parks: I believe in concealed carry, to a point. I also believe that a city can say no to CCW in parks, just as it can to alcohol or unleashed mutts. If I thought a park warranted carrying a gun, I'd find a different park.
BTW, I'm posting general responses to items discussed here over the past few days.
Gringrich: a moral slug, but he is an effective communicator. Dems may salivate over his baggage, but it resembles that of their hero Willard Clinton, who basically made sleazy behavior irrelevant to suitability for office. Were I a Dem, I'd contemplate a Gringrich v. Obama debate with apprehension. President Obama is nowhere near as fast on his feet without his TelePrompter.
OT commented recently that Willard Clinton was the best Prez in the last 20 years. I disagree (of course). GHW Bush was the best of the last 20. Clinton receives undeserved kudos for the economy of the time, while his admirers ignore his p-poor foreign policy, which involved launching air strikes to generate headlines to distract from his scandals, and letting Jimmy Carter put the NK's on the back for their nuke program. Oh yeah, there is the matter of the Chinese campaign contributions while obtaining our military secrets.
Bucky, school grounds are school grounds. The city of Chapel Hill is the city of Chapel Hill. In your history of lame comebacks, that one is your lamest, so far.
Nice try, Stab. The 2000 recount in Florida was conducted under a Republican governor, who just happened to be the brother of the Republican candidate for POTUS, and was controlled by the Republican secretary of state.
As to your allegation about college students double dipping, as Brokebuck would say, cite your sources, of which, of course, there are none except the talking heads.
As to the inoffensiveness of the Littlejohn's crowd, it was folks from there who beat the 60-something year old owner of Paul's Italian Restaurant senseless not long ago.
Romney and mining moon rocks: they better be diamonds. Any other mining would come nowhere near paying for itself. Transportation costs would be extreme. Actually, diamond mining would be supremely unprofitable, also.
Given the current theory of the moon's origin, it is unlikely that it has any useful amount of heavy metals. From Wiki: "Elements known to be present on the lunar surface include, among others, oxygen (O), silicon (Si), iron (Fe), magnesium (Mg), calcium (Ca), aluminium (Al), manganese (Mn) and titanium (Ti). Among the more abundant are oxygen, iron and silicon."
Oxygen and silicon are the two most abundant elements in the earth's crust. I doubt we'll mine the moon anytime soon.
Hi OT. The vote counts changed notably where Dem elections boards oversaw them. I stand reminded re Littlejohn's troublemakers. My comments were based on zombie encounters at Pizza Hut. There was reportage of Ann Arbor and Madison students voting at home and at school. Can't give you the citations, but I'm sure you wouldn't discount that occurring.
OT, I note no disagreement re the Dem theft of IL in 1960. Cook County held out until southern IL had reported. Then it produced numbers sufficient to hand the state to Kennedy. We hear a lot of indignation re the 2000 election, never heard anything about the fraud that elected a press darling.
If I were Obama, I wouldn't be all that worried about debating Gingrich. His intellect is greatly overrated.
When he was still a young Democrat, he taught at two backwoods colleges and could not get tenure at either. His books, what I have forced myself to read of them, are pretty low level in thinking and repetitious, since he recycles sentences, paragraphs and whole chapters.
And here is a recent example of his debating skills:
"What I suggested was, kids ought to be allowed to work part-time in school, particularly in the poorest neighborhoods, both because they could use the money.
If you take one-half of the New York janitors who are unionized and paid more than the teachers, an entry-level janitor gets paid twice as much as an entry-level teacher. You take half of those janitors, you could give virtually– you could give lots of poor kids a work experience in the cafeteria and the school library and– and front office, and a lot of different things. I’ll stand by the idea, young people ought to learn how to work."
Not a word of which, except for the last sentence, is true.
The 1960 election was the first one that I was involved in...I couldn't vote yet, but I was allowed to work at the polls, helping check in voters and assisting the elderly with the then humongous machines...it was exciting and a great privilege. I followed every tiny aspect of the result.
There were bitter Republican challenges in several states. Not one succeeded in changing the outcome.
To claim that Cook County "stole" the election reveals a capitulation to 50 years of propaganda. That case was heard by several courts and election boards of both political persuasions, and in the end, the claim that Mayor Daley stole the election had no more validity than the statement that college students vote twice in wholesale numbers.
Considering who Daley was, there is little doubt that he tried to bend the results, but there has never been on shred of proof. I don't know of any legitimate political historian who believes that Daley succeeded.
Rush, you moron. Where hanging chads got their names, essentially, occurred in Palm Beach County, Florida. It's the most liberal of liberal counties in the state. Democrats tried, repeatedly, to steal the election from GW Bush until legal action began, and cooler heads ultimately prevailed. Bush had won Florida several times, even with Democrats counting, and recounting, in Palm Beach and other counties. But never underestimate corrupt Democrats, it wasn't until the U.S. Supreme Court overruled a predominately Democratic Florida Supreme Court that instructed counties to keep counting 'until' (that would have been when Al Gore won of course).
The federal government DOES have jurisdiction over voting rights and they are enumerated in laws passed in 1965, 1986, and 1993. AG Holder is currently trying to enter into the voting rights fray as we speak.
So, when you break out your erector set Rush, break out your play lawyer game too. You just might learn something.
It's obvious that Forsyth Tech didn't have a very good 'law' school when Rush graduated.
Federal government has jurisdiction over voting RIGHTS. Unless the federal government CLAIMS jurisdiction, state government has jurisdiction over voter FRAUD.
Clearly, Brokebuck gets his info from Rush/Beck/other dittoheads, all of whom either never knew or have long since forgotten what went on in Florida in 2000.
Independent investigations in that state revealed serious irregularities directed mostly against ethnic minorities and low-income residents who usually voted heavily Democratic. Some 36,000 newly registered voters were turned away because their names had never been added to the voter rolls by Florida’s Republican secretary of state Kathleen Harris. By virtue of the office she held, Harris presided over the state’s election process while herself being an active member of the Bush Jr. state-wide campaign committee.
Other voters were turned away because they were declared--almost always incorrectly--“convicted felons.” In several Democratic precincts, state officials closed the polls early, leaving lines of would-be voters stranded.
Under orders from Governor Jeb Bush (Bush Jr.’s brother), state troopers near polling sites delayed people for hours while searching their cars. Some precincts required two photo IDs which many citizens do not have. The requirement under Florida law was only one photo ID. Passed just before the election, this law itself posed a special difficulty for low-income or elderly voters who did not have drivers licenses or other photo IDs.
Uncounted ballot boxes went missing or were found in unexplained places or were never collected from certain African-American precincts. During the recount, GOP agitators shipped in from Washington D.C. by the Republican national leadership stormed the Dale County Canvassing Board, punched and kicked one of the officials, shouted and banged on their office doors, and generally created a climate of intimidation that caused the board to abandon its recount and accept the dubious pro-Bush tally.
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ReplyDeleteAnybody that knows anything about voting in America knows we've got big problems.
ReplyDeleteWhile Hillary Clinton spent her time criticizing the recent Russian elections, she should have been over here trying to help clean up our own elections, and voter registration procedures.
Thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants have registered to vote in the United States. Why? Because you simply have to sign a form stating that you are a U.S. citizen. There is no vetting process. We've allowed our own system of voting to be corrupted through sloppiness and incompetence.
One only has to look at ACORN and other 'registration' groups at or near the border to see that corruption is rampant.
Many people say, why haven't there been many prosecutions because of voter fraud if it's so rampant? My answer is because we don't really investigate voter fraud. There's no real agency set up to investigate these crimes, and most local, state, and federal agencies don't have the time to properly do so.
Something is really wrong in America where we have requirements for identity to do most anything in America, but yet, we don't have voter I.D. laws.
Democrats simply want to maintain the status quo of political corruption and voter fraud in order to maintain power
I've read a lot of stories about the elderly having difficulty in getting a voter ID but I haven't heard of one case of voter fraud that has been prevented. Of course over a 5 year period, with over 300 million votes cast, the Bush Administration charged just 120 people with voter fraud and convicted 86.
ReplyDeleteMy mother has two very different legal names. She has a driver's license and Social Security Card with the name she wants to be known by, and a birth certificate and U.S. passport with the names the doctor who delivered her wrote on her birth certificate.
ReplyDeleteThese names except for her maiden last name are are totally different. She also has two residences in two different states. I believe if she wanted to she could easily register to vote it two states and vote against Obama twice in 2012.
Her voter registration in Forsyth Co. has her listed with first name, middle initial "H" and last name. The middle initial "H" is from a previous marriage(many, many years ago) and she has no legal ID which exactly matches her registration.
There are probably many elderly people who have mismatches in their registration and ID due to the fact that records were not as carefully checked for accuracy as they are now. She got the name she wanted on her driver's license and social security card just simply by requesting it when she was a teenager.
2002 Mitt Romney: "my views are progressive and they will vote for me despite party affiliation."
ReplyDeleteBobby, could we get a cite on your stats? Also, what is the data on the Obama Administration's track record on stopping voter fraud?
ReplyDeleteThe Obama Administration is 'SUING' states that are trying to help the federal government do its job regarding illegal immigration.
ReplyDeleteThat should tell you where Democrats are on the issue of preventing voter fraud. Democrats don't care where the votes come from, and if they lead to more corruption, they simply want to maintain power, and further corrupt America.
The conduct by the Obama Administration's 'Justice' Department is literally outrageous!
@Bucky: Please quantify your assertion that "thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants have registered to vote in the United States". Based on previous requests I doubt that you can; you MIGHT come up with something that could PASS as an answer, so just humor me if you will.
ReplyDeleteEven if your assertion is indisputable, how many of those "thousands upon thousands" ACTUALLY VOTE? Certainly not "thousands upon thousands", otherwise the studies showing that there is NO evidence of widespread voter fraud (locally, statewide, or nationally) would be incorrect.
A "cite on your stats", if you will.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?pagewanted=all
ReplyDeleteWASHINGTON, April 11 — Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud, the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections, according to court records and interviews.
Although Republican activists have repeatedly said fraud is so widespread that it has corrupted the political process and, possibly, cost the party election victories, about 120 people have been charged and 86 convicted as of last year.
¡Grácias, Bob!
ReplyDeleteAny word from Bucky?
ReplyDeleteOf course, his response will be that your "cites" are from a Liberal rag/source.
ReplyDelete. . . a predictable standard response from Bucky.
ReplyDeleteYou're not going to get any actual facts out of Buckback Mountain, because there aren't any.
ReplyDeleteAs with everything else, he just makes up whatever pleases him. What a joke.
Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh, heh; he said Buckback Mountain.
ReplyDeleteChristine O'Donnell: Romney Has 'Been Consistent Since He Changed His Mind,'
ReplyDeleteSomewhere, John Kerry must be smiling.
Interesting how many states are noticing "unintended consequences" due to new laws they passed. Tells me that too many are legislating out of emotion instead of logic. Wonder how many voters next year will look at the state legislators they elected in 2008 and say, "Oops! Didn't mean for them to get elected!"
ReplyDeleteLet's see. We can start with his idea to have a lunar colony that would mine minerals from the moon," Romney said.
ReplyDelete"I'm proud of trying to find things that give young people a reason to study science and math and technology and telling them that some day in their lifetime, they could dream of going to the moon, they could dream of going to Mars," Gingrich said in response to Romney.
Gingrich economic plan:
Fire 75% of unionized janitors, replace them with child labor. Once they have learned to clean bathrooms, ship them to the moon, in the name of science and math, and have them mine lunar minerals.
Funny how Bobby quoted the NYTIMES, one of the most liberal newspapers in the country for his referenced source.
ReplyDeleteMore information on the gay news front.
ReplyDeleteA lawyer for a former Penn State assistant football coach accused of molesting boys says he didn't mean to refer to a gay sex phone line when he said anyone who believes university officials thought his client raped a 10-year-old boy and did little about it should call 1-800-REALITY.
The phrase is one attorney Joseph Amendola says he's used for years to mean "get a life." But the phone number is a sex line for gay and bi-curious men.
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"Rewriting my fav Shania Twain song.. Any man that tries Touching my behind He's gonna be a beaten, bleedin', heaving kind of guy ..."
Country music star Blake Shelton caused a stir earlier this year when he tweeted the above lyric, suggesting he would leave any guy that touched his butt "beaten" and "bleedin'." Gay rights advocates such as Glaad were outraged. Glaad asked producers of "The Voice" to demand that he apologize, adding that "one has to wonder how Shania feels about seeing her anthem about strong women and female empowerment
turned into a violent threat."
* Looks like to me that Mr. Shelton was not unjustified in his comment based on recent events.
Gay and Lesbian Hate Groups are active in Winston Salem. Story to follow.
ReplyDeleteReille....unlike you, my world view and experiences, go far beyond Forsyth County. So my statements are based on my personal observations, not liberal conjecture, and political correctness.
ReplyDeleteBobby, still waiting on the data from you on the Obama Administration's efforts on preventing voter fraud?
ReplyDeleteFor example, how many ACORN members went to jail for illegally registering illegals to vote?
Here's the story about gay hate groups attacking a local gun range.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.towleroad.com/2011/12/north-carolina-gun-range-promises-to-convert-pansies.html
Note: The referenced website is a gay website. Click on other topics within the site at your own risk, you could be exposed to deviant sex acts.
You never need a gun on school grounds? Think again.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/14/unc-student-fatally-shot-had-asked-captors-to-pray-before-death-according-to/
As usual, Buckback's "knowledge" ("based on my personal observations", he says) comes up far short of reality.
ReplyDeleteNone of the events that occurred during Eve Carson's murder happened anywhere near the UNC campus. She was abducted from her off-campus home and murdered nearby.
One wonders why he would be so obsessed at having his ass leered at at the gym when he is so eager to show it every day on this site.
@Rush's 1720hrs: just as I predicted re Brokebuck Mountain (I like that name). His response re "thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants" registered to vote in the United States is based not in stats not studies but on his "world view and experiences" . . . in other words: his OPINION. TO INFINITY, AND BEYOND!!!!
ReplyDeleteCan you say GRANDIOSE?
It's called narcisscism = sociopathy = psychopathy = severe mental illness.
ReplyDeleteHey dotnet.......when you crawl out from under that liberal rock you're living under, take a read of 'Unintended Consequences' by John Ross. It's obvious you don't know diddly about gun rights and gun laws relative to the U.S. Constitution.
ReplyDeleteI invented 'Pac-man' in case you were wondering dotnet. Hee Hee....so many liberals, too little time.
Hey Rush, you idiot. School grounds could mean a lot things. To a lot people the entire City of Chapel Hill is 'school grounds'. But you wouldn't know. You probably went to Forsyth Tech at best.
ReplyDeleteAs Gomer Pyle used to say "Surprise, surprise!"
ReplyDeleteBrokebuck cites Unintended Consequences as his source for information on gun laws. I'm sure that he doesn't know that it is a novel...made up stories, just like his whole life. It has many references to actual historic events...only problem is that most of that is made up too.
The book has sold about 60,000 copies in 15 years, which is just about right...probably about 4,000 nutcases take up reading each year.
I'm not a gun person, but I'm thinking about building a shelter for the zombie apocalypse.
ReplyDeleteAlmost missed this one:
ReplyDelete"Also, what is the data on the Obama Administration's track record on stopping voter fraud?"
One more time, Brokebuck reveals his vast ignorance. Voting fraud is NOT the function of the federal government. That is state business.
The Federal Election Commission overseas campaign finance regulation. It has nothing to do with voter registration.
Each state has its own State Board of Elections. When there is an allegation of voting fraud, they are the ones that respond. And most have plenty of resources to investigate, including, in NC, the SBI in criminal cases.
The reason that there hasn't been much action anywhere regarding voting fraud is that such cases are very rare, except in the minds of the paranoid talking radio heads and their even more paranoid listeners.
If Brokebuck is going to post comments about the American political system, maybe he ought to enroll at Forsyth Tech. They have excellent courses in civics, and a lot of other stuff that he has never heard of.
Vote fraud appears to be perpetrated at a higher level for them most part, as in the Democratic theft of Illinois in the 1960 election, or the decried FL recount of 2000 that continued to erode Bush's lead in Dem precincts as Dem boards of elections "interpreted" votes. It was interesting, if predictable, to see the lead dwindle without fluctuation as the Dems "recounted." One would think there would have been some seesawing. Same thing happened in MN, leading to the "election" of the appalling Al Franken.
ReplyDeleteThere is some retail vote fraud, like true-believing college students voting in both their hometowns and in their college towns. Folks who vote other than Dem simply cast one ballot and then go back to work.
Unfortunately, this season, the pickings are slim on the R side. Maybe I'll write myself in.
Arthur, the zombie shelter can be found on Robinhood Road. Littlejohn's Tavern kindly shelters them. They can be seen occasionally wobbling across the street to Pizza Hut, where I occasionally encounter one. They appear to be inoffensive, in the main.
ReplyDeleteGuns in parks: I believe in concealed carry, to a point. I also believe that a city can say no to CCW in parks, just as it can to alcohol or unleashed mutts. If I thought a park warranted carrying a gun, I'd find a different park.
ReplyDeleteBTW, I'm posting general responses to items discussed here over the past few days.
ReplyDeleteGringrich: a moral slug, but he is an effective communicator. Dems may salivate over his baggage, but it resembles that of their hero Willard Clinton, who basically made sleazy behavior irrelevant to suitability for office. Were I a Dem, I'd contemplate a Gringrich v. Obama debate with apprehension. President Obama is nowhere near as fast on his feet without his TelePrompter.
OT commented recently that Willard Clinton was the best Prez in the last 20 years. I disagree (of course). GHW Bush was the best of the last 20. Clinton receives undeserved kudos for the economy of the time, while his admirers ignore his p-poor foreign policy, which involved launching air strikes to generate headlines to distract from his scandals, and letting Jimmy Carter put the NK's on the back for their nuke program. Oh yeah, there is the matter of the Chinese campaign contributions while obtaining our military secrets.
ReplyDeleteBucky, school grounds are school grounds. The city of Chapel Hill is the city of Chapel Hill. In your history of lame comebacks, that one is your lamest, so far.
ReplyDeleteNice try, Stab. The 2000 recount in Florida was conducted under a Republican governor, who just happened to be the brother of the Republican candidate for POTUS, and was controlled by the Republican secretary of state.
ReplyDeleteAs to your allegation about college students double dipping, as Brokebuck would say, cite your sources, of which, of course, there are none except the talking heads.
As to the inoffensiveness of the Littlejohn's crowd, it was folks from there who beat the 60-something year old owner of Paul's Italian Restaurant senseless not long ago.
Romney and mining moon rocks: they better be diamonds. Any other mining would come nowhere near paying for itself. Transportation costs would be extreme. Actually, diamond mining would be supremely unprofitable, also.
ReplyDeleteGiven the current theory of the moon's origin, it is unlikely that it has any useful amount of heavy metals. From Wiki: "Elements known to be present on the lunar surface include, among others, oxygen (O), silicon (Si), iron (Fe), magnesium (Mg), calcium (Ca), aluminium (Al), manganese (Mn) and titanium (Ti). Among the more abundant are oxygen, iron and silicon."
Oxygen and silicon are the two most abundant elements in the earth's crust. I doubt we'll mine the moon anytime soon.
Hi OT. The vote counts changed notably where Dem elections boards oversaw them. I stand reminded re Littlejohn's troublemakers. My comments were based on zombie encounters at Pizza Hut. There was reportage of Ann Arbor and Madison students voting at home and at school. Can't give you the citations, but I'm sure you wouldn't discount that occurring.
ReplyDeleteOT, I note no disagreement re the Dem theft of IL in 1960. Cook County held out until southern IL had reported. Then it produced numbers sufficient to hand the state to Kennedy. We hear a lot of indignation re the 2000 election, never heard anything about the fraud that elected a press darling.
ReplyDeleteIf I were Obama, I wouldn't be all that worried about debating Gingrich. His intellect is greatly overrated.
ReplyDeleteWhen he was still a young Democrat, he taught at two backwoods colleges and could not get tenure at either. His books, what I have forced myself to read of them, are pretty low level in thinking and repetitious, since he recycles sentences, paragraphs and whole chapters.
And here is a recent example of his debating skills:
"What I suggested was, kids ought to be allowed to work part-time in school, particularly in the poorest neighborhoods, both because they could use the money.
If you take one-half of the New York janitors who are unionized and paid more than the teachers, an entry-level janitor gets paid twice as much as an entry-level teacher. You take half of those janitors, you could give virtually– you could give lots of poor kids a work experience in the cafeteria and the school library and– and front office, and a lot of different things. I’ll stand by the idea, young people ought to learn how to work."
Not a word of which, except for the last sentence, is true.
The 1960 election was the first one that I was involved in...I couldn't vote yet, but I was allowed to work at the polls, helping check in voters and assisting the elderly with the then humongous machines...it was exciting and a great privilege. I followed every tiny aspect of the result.
ReplyDeleteThere were bitter Republican challenges in several states. Not one succeeded in changing the outcome.
To claim that Cook County "stole" the election reveals a capitulation to 50 years of propaganda. That case was heard by several courts and election boards of both political persuasions, and in the end, the claim that Mayor Daley stole the election had no more validity than the statement that college students vote twice in wholesale numbers.
Considering who Daley was, there is little doubt that he tried to bend the results, but there has never been on shred of proof. I don't know of any legitimate political historian who believes that Daley succeeded.
Rush, you moron. Where hanging chads got their names, essentially, occurred in Palm Beach County, Florida. It's the most liberal of liberal counties in the state. Democrats tried, repeatedly, to steal the election from GW Bush until legal action began, and cooler heads ultimately prevailed. Bush had won Florida several times, even with Democrats counting, and recounting, in Palm Beach and other counties. But never underestimate corrupt Democrats, it wasn't until the U.S. Supreme Court overruled a predominately Democratic Florida Supreme Court that instructed counties to keep counting 'until' (that would have been when Al Gore won of course).
ReplyDeleteThe federal government DOES have jurisdiction over voting rights and they are enumerated in laws passed in 1965, 1986, and 1993. AG Holder is currently trying to enter into the voting rights fray as we speak.
So, when you break out your erector set Rush, break out your play lawyer game too. You just might learn something.
It's obvious that Forsyth Tech didn't have a very good 'law' school when Rush graduated.
Jeez, it just never stops.
I'm going to start calling Rush 'Pokey' if he keeps this nonsense up.
ReplyDeleteFederal government has jurisdiction over voting RIGHTS. Unless the federal government CLAIMS jurisdiction, state government has jurisdiction over voter FRAUD.
ReplyDeleteClearly, Brokebuck gets his info from Rush/Beck/other dittoheads, all of whom either never knew or have long since forgotten what went on in Florida in 2000.
ReplyDeleteIndependent investigations in that state revealed serious irregularities directed mostly against ethnic minorities and low-income residents who usually voted heavily Democratic. Some 36,000 newly registered voters were turned away because their names had never been added to the voter rolls by Florida’s Republican secretary of state Kathleen Harris. By virtue of the office she held, Harris presided over the state’s election process while herself being an active member of the Bush Jr. state-wide campaign committee.
Other voters were turned away because they were declared--almost always incorrectly--“convicted felons.” In several Democratic precincts, state officials closed the polls early, leaving lines of would-be voters stranded.
Under orders from Governor Jeb Bush (Bush Jr.’s brother), state troopers near polling sites delayed people for hours while searching their cars. Some precincts required two photo IDs which many citizens do not have. The requirement under Florida law was only one photo ID. Passed just before the election, this law itself posed a special difficulty for low-income or elderly voters who did not have drivers licenses or other photo IDs.
Uncounted ballot boxes went missing or were found in unexplained places or were never collected from certain African-American precincts. During the recount, GOP agitators shipped in from Washington D.C. by the Republican national leadership stormed the Dale County Canvassing Board, punched and kicked one of the officials, shouted and banged on their office doors, and generally created a climate of intimidation that caused the board to abandon its recount and accept the dubious pro-Bush tally.