Human rights and dignity
I'm sure the writer of the letter "Stand up and fight" (Dec. 12) is sincere and believes he's standing for what's right. But even as he quotes the Bible and writes, "To be a believer means you must do and say what our Lord and savior did and said," he seems unaware that Jesus never said anything about being gay — not a single word. Whoever he believes he's following, it's not Jesus.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was speaking for the United States when she said, in part:
"It is violation of human rights when people are beaten or killed because of their sexual orientation, or because they do not conform to cultural norms about how men and women should look or behave. … And it is a violation of human rights when life-saving care is withheld from people because they are gay, or equal access to justice is denied to people because they are gay ... No matter what we look like, where we come from, or who we are, we are all equally entitled to our human rights and dignity."
Can anybody really argue with that? Even if one sees homosexuality as a moral failing, would anyone say that gay people should be beaten or killed because they're gay? Surely that is not a position that Jesus — or any moral person — would take.
It's hard to change beliefs that are so entrenched. I can only hope that people will become better informed and open their hearts.
SARAH G. FINCH
Winston-Salem
Describing the Occupiers
Art Pope's corner of the Journal, the Nov. 26 column "Of politicians otherwise Occupied" by John Hood of the John Locke Foundation, held forth on the Occupy movement. Hood applies an impressive list of attributes to Occupy people and their situation: freaks, socialists, left-wing kooks; anti-Republican, anti-libertarian; the filth, the intimidation, the violence, the weapons, the drug overdoses, the killings and the Penn State-like conspiracy of silence about sexual assaults; increasingly desperate and shrill; leftist geniuses; anarcho-socialists and other revolutionaries; hard-core radicals, professional agitators, amateur anarchists, addicts, vagrants and deeply confused. All in the space of a single column.
It appears that Hood has never met with any of the people he vilifies. If he knows any of their actual names, he does not give them. He does not explain why he thinks they are as he says they are, nor does he provide any actual facts. He does not appear to know any of the people who have been searching for common ground with the city of Winston-Salem in order to peacefully protest without inconveniencing government officials.
I have talked with some of them, and you've reported on them. The local Occupy people are not that stunning litany of slurs, but they do lack Art Pope's easy access to the public soapbox because they are neither wealthy, nor shrill, nor geniuses of any kind. They are the 99 percent. He isn't.
STEVE SCROGGIN
Winston-Salem
One more
In a cartoon on the Dec. 9 op-ed page, Mitt Romney is seen as the turtle on the road to the nomination. I noticed that the rabbits that had been run over included Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry and Herman Cain.
One was conspicuously missing: Ron Paul. He's the only one who actually makes sense to me and the one I'll vote for. Go, Ron!
WILLIAM SAMS
King
Sum It Up
Do you think public-school students should be able to opt out of saying the Pledge of Allegiance even if their families have no religious objection to it? Respond to letters@wsjournal.com and put "Sum It Up" in the subject header. Only signed entries please, no anonymous ones. Briefer responses receive preference in print
Correspondent of the week
Crazy feminists
Thanks to the writer of the Dec. 9 letter "Attacks on Cain," who credits the feminist movement for the demise of Herman Cain's presidential campaign. His letter energizes the feminist movement, and all five of us are ready to start our campaign.
We will pop out from behind bushes and cars, brandishing such intimidating items as bras, aprons, girdles and high-heeled shoes to shock men silly. We will lurk in Walmart, ready to spray the writer's coat with Chanel No. 5 so that he will be surrounded by scary crowds of women demanding to know the name of his perfume. Perhaps we will even intimidate some poor helpless males into paying hush money, just like Herman Cain did.
You'll know us by the anthem we sing joyfully: "It's Raining Men."
ELIZABETH L. SANER
Kernersville
Great response from Elizabeth L. Saner
ReplyDeleteHave you ever wondered?
ReplyDeleteHave you ever wondered why more people don't write into the Journal voicing their opinion in opposition to the gay and gay lifestyle? After all, there will be thousands and thousands of North Carolinians that will vote for the marriage admendment in just few months. One only has to look at recent events at a little known gun range in Rural Hall, N.C. It's just a few miles up the road from the big metropolis of Winston-Salem.
It seems that the gun shop, Pro Shots, placed a billboard near Wake Forest Baptist Hospital and I-40, and it advertised its gun range. The sign said 'Pansies converted Daily'. Although Merriam Webster indicates that the word 'Pansy' may be used to connote a homosexual male. It can be used both in the noun or adjective form. It can also be used to describe a weak or effeminate person. Nobody knows what the owner of gun shop meant for sure, but he probably meant the later.
Well, I don't go to the gun range, but I do know a few people that do. After the sign went up, some people told me that people started calling the range. The people were identifying themselves as members of various gay and lesbian groups. No big deal right? Wrong, they were 'threatening' the range to take the sign down or 'else'. Then the range started getting calls from overseas groups too.
Again, nobody thinks it's a big deal. But if you put it in perspective, groups are calling a 'gun' range and attempting to intimidate it. Note: People that go to gun ranges typically have guns, don't they? Wow!
Which brings me to my point. What would these gay and lesbian groups, given what they did to a gun range, do to an average citizen that voiced their opinion about the gay lifestyle in the WS Journal?
There are clearly gay hate groups all over the world, and they intend to intimidate and threaten 'anyone' that disagrees with them. So when you don't read many signed letters in the Journal concerning the gay and lesbian topic, remember, if gay and lesbian groups will threaten a gun range, just think what they would do an average person.
Here's the link: Note-This is obviously a liberal/gay website, and the reporting will be done from that perspective.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/15/north-carolina-shooting-range-pansies_n_1152295.html
Didn't take you for a HuffPo reader, Bucky. I would think that site is more liberal than the NYT which you seem to dislike. Glad you're at least broadening your reading list.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, you are correct that the marriage admendment will probably pass in NC.
It's interesting that we intrinsically depend on the World Wide Web to do our thinking for us.
ReplyDeleteWe refer, (NO!!! DEFER . . .) to the World Wide Web to define what gay means to us. We refer (DEFER) to it to define what pansy means to us. Even if dictionary.com has various listed meanings to each of those words, gay and pansy, we then pick ONE meaning to illustrate (and CONFIRM) our DEEP ROOTED, CLOSELY HELD belief that even as we are different from ANYONE ELSE in this ENTIRE UNIVERSE, that because YOU are different from ME, that you are more superior than I AM. How dare YOU, or ANY body say that.
This is directed to no one in PARTICULAR, but to EVERYONE in general.
Rush....you idiot. I don't why you keep masquerading as another poster. But you, being the idiot that you are, just can't help yourself, can you?
ReplyDeleteAs usual, all my comments regarding Brokebuck's moronic comments begin with "as usual".
ReplyDeleteAs usual, he gets it wrong. I post under my own name here. DumbBuck posts anonymously everywhere because he doesn't have the guts to do otherwise. He wouldn't dare say the crap he says about the sheriff in his own name.
Pewling, cringing coward, he is.
BTW, I agree with Anonymous, whoever they be.
Rush, why don't you post your real name and address if you think I'm such a coward. I'll drop by and see you sometime if you want.
ReplyDeleteAnd when I see you, I'll tell you to your face you're an idiot. How's that?
SlopBucket has made another ASSumption about someone else's identity. Last I read, he had ASSumed I was a Journal LTE writer throwing down stats about another one of his favorite (and predictable) topics: FCSO.
ReplyDeleteI tell you what, UpChuck, I see (and call) a challenge here. Addresses are not necessary here because that can be found on the BOE website, but once you post your name here, (first, last, and real) I will follow your lead. You first.
BTW: I say what I mean and mean what I say.
ReplyDeleteRe the "Anonymous" comment: someone must have clicked on the "next blog" link at the top of the page and stumbled upon this blog, read UpChuck's comment and was compelled to respond. There's ALOT of bloggers out there, Chuck. Contrary to what you may think, it's NOT all about you.
ReplyDeleteBTW, the offensive ProShots billboard is coming down. ProShots put it up with a grant from the National Shooting Sports Foundation. As soon as the foundation heard about the billboard, they told ProShots to take it down.
ReplyDeleteProShots says that they had already decided to do so. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt in this case. After all, we are all human beings, thus prone to make mistakes. All of us but Buckstrap, of course.
Unfortunately, this became a national news story, so the damage is already done, making us look like the same sort of hick backwater that nurtures the likes of Fred Phelps and his ilk.
I guess we found out who the coward is.....Rush, the forum idiot.
ReplyDeleteHow did I know the Cowardly Buck wouldn't meet the challenge?
ReplyDeleteIf you're going to put up a billboard with ignorant garbage like that, you should at least have the decency and sense to use your own money.
ReplyDeleteWhat a bunch of maroons. What gullibulls.
LaSombra, you knew because Buckydoodle is the ultimate quivering coward...a skunk with a yellow stripe down his back rather than a white one.
ReplyDeleteRush....you're the coward. I offered you a chance to meet me. But you were too much of a coward to do it.
ReplyDeleteI'll bet you're one of those fat, larded liberals that can't even get out your computer chair. You're pathetic.
And to Rielle, if you want to defend Rush, the forum idiot, that's your business. But don't expect any breaks from me.
ReplyDeleteSome fat slob that can't even touch his toes, that gave out batteries in the Vietnam War, doesn't want to meet me. What a surprise.
ReplyDeleteOh my, Buckydoodle is an ITG...reminds me of DC, who was always going to whup somebody's butt.
ReplyDeleteBetter get you one of those concealed carry permits, Bucky boy, because you couldn't choke your own chicken.
Arthur, I don't think the owner even thought about the word 'pansy' meaning a male homosexual. However, as you know, the gay and lesbian haters viewed it as a chance to make a name for themselves, and caused a big stink.
ReplyDeleteBut I'm sure you don't think of it that way, do you?
Rush....put your real name up, or are you a coward?
ReplyDeleteMy real name is already up, you dumb turd.
ReplyDeleteSure it is......put up your address then, coward.
ReplyDeleteRush is so smart, but he seems to have forgotten where he lives.
ReplyDeleteI'M the one who issued the challenge, Chuck, so I defend NO ONE. Some one has finally called you out and you're hiding behind a puny ass name? I call that a coward. Remember, I MEAN WHAT I SAY, AND SAY WHAT I MEAN.
ReplyDeleteDo you?
So Rielle are you and Rush all of sudden best friends. I thought you had better taste. Johnny is at least a millionaire.
ReplyDeleteBuckydoodle is an even bigger fool than Palin, Bachmann, Ricky Boy, Big Herman, Newton, etc.
ReplyDeleteHey Doodle, no one in their right mind posts their address or phone number on the web. You're the one who hasn't even got the guts to use his real name. Losing it, are you?
Keep bashing the sheriff if it makes you feel like a big boy, but we know you're still wearing short pants.
Rush.....A/K/A the forum idiot, KittyKat, the resident nitwit, Forsyth Tech Law Graduate, and now a COWARD! What other names are you going to acrue in here Rush?
ReplyDeleteBucky Boy, you are the best joke around. LaSombra has issued a challenge which you don't seem to be able to meet.
ReplyDeleteRush...ohhhhhhh.....I thought you were a tuff guy. You're the one that brought up the identity issue. So now you're the COWARD because you won't identify yourself, huh?
ReplyDeleteJust as I thought. You're just another liberal lump of nothing, yapping away.
C'mon, BeltBuckle Buck. We all know deflection is what you do best, but it isn't working here.
ReplyDeleteTake the challenge, Chuck ! ! !
Rielle....don't you need to put that child to bed?
ReplyDeleteOkay folks, it's time for bed-at least for me. You all can stay up and do whatever dumb liberals do.
ReplyDeleteI've got some new material that all of you are going to enjoy. Stay tuned.
It's not like you're busted, Chuck. Every one at FCSO and the Journal knows who you are.
ReplyDeleteYou answered my questions; ANSWER THE CHALLENGE. You don't even need to give your address. I'll post my name once you've posted yours. I've given you my word.
You, clearly, are chicken shite if you don't take the challenge.
Get you COWARD friend to put his name up, and I'll think about it.
ReplyDeleteCheck back in tomorrow Rielle. I've got some good stuff that'll drive all you nuts.
ReplyDeleteCheck that...you all are already nuts.
ReplyDeleteBuckydoodle went to town,
ReplyDeleteriding on a donkey,
stuck a wiener in his mouth
and called it Buckyroney.
Buckydoodle keep it UP,
Buckydoodle randy,
Mind the music and the step
and with the boys be HANDY.
Pretty lame.......coward. I thought you were supposed to be smart. My ten year old son could write a better poem.
ReplyDeleteGive LaSombra an answer, you pitiful creature.
ReplyDeleteIt's OK. I already know who you are. And if needed, I can get your address from the Forsyth County Geo-Data and BOE websites.
ReplyDeleteEvery time you post, I get a better and bigger picture of who you really are and what you represent.
You live a miserable life and the only way to make yourself feel better is to troll blogs and websites that reflect your own miserable life.
This one is NOT one of them, Buckyboy.
Sorry Rielle....I don't get intimidated easily.
ReplyDeleteI represent the truth. Homosexual misconduct is on the rise, and I'm merely pointing it out. I guess 'free' speech is only for people that are part of the politically correct propaganda machine, huh?
ReplyDelete