Reasonable solution
The proposed Reynolds High School stadium could be built on land that the Winston-Salem/Forsyth County school system owns, which is now a soccer field behind Forsyth Tech West Campus. This space has the advantage of having a parking lot adjacent to the field and the parking lot at Bolton School. Also on game days additional parking could be procured from Forsyth Technical Community College's West campus. Since most games are played on Friday night and Forsyth Tech closes at 3 p.m. on Fridays, the impact should be minimal to Forsyth Tech.
Also, residential impact would minimal. Parkland High School plays at a stadium removed from its campus without hindering the playing of sports. Come to think of it, Reynolds plays at the same stadium as well. The proposed stadium may be a gift to the school system from the supporters of Reynolds; however, it still comes with additional costs associated with upkeep and future repairs. Clearly, the foreseeable and natural consequences of operating two stadiums will diminish the funds available to meet the core reason the school system exists — education. Hanes Park is Winston-Salem's central park, a park for the whole population that should be preserved as such, unencumbered with a stadium.
There is a workable option to the Hanes Park site. It lies behind Forsyth Tech's West campus and falls well within the reasonableness realm.
GEORGE SAGE
Winston-Salem
Bold and outrageous
The writer of the Sept. 4 letter "A vigorous call" was upset that there's a group called "African-Americans for Obama." He thinks its existence is "bold and outrageous race-baiting to the extreme." After all, there are no "Hispanics for Marco Rubio," or "Catholics for Paul Ryan."
There is, however, an organization called "African-Americans for Mitt Romney." Funny, he didn't think to check. Or maybe he just didn't think anyone else would.
I wonder if he would call that "bold and outrageous race-baiting to the extreme."
JAMES T. FULLER
Winston-Salem
Truths told
The Republicans are telling everyone the truth. The country is spiraling toward economic disaster. The Republicans are not going to shy away from the possible calamity that is approaching.
On the Democratic side, President Obama (if he is re-elected) will then have to 'fess up and tell the American people the truth also: Our country is facing economic disaster, and the attacks on the "rich" to pay more taxes will not solve the problem.
All kinds of sacrifices will have to be made to get our country back on the right track. Yes, taxes will probably have to increase, or all kinds of current tax deductions will have to be eliminated, probably both, and all so-called "entitlement programs" will have to face severe financial cuts or elimination also. And we all know that Social Security and Medicare are about broke.
We all know that we can't continue on the path we now are on. We can't operate our household budgets this way, and the U.S. government can't, either. Doesn't anyone see what is happening to many state and city and county budgets already? Bankruptcy, layoffs, etc. It's time every citizen paid attention to what is happening to our country before it's too late.
HOWARD MOFFATT
Winston-Salem
Divisive
I read the guest column "Women for Mitt" (Aug. 23) by Dena Barnes, the state co-chairwoman for the group, and I laughed and laughed.
She claims that President Obama is divisive. Look at all the tea-party Republicans who proclaimed "compromise" a dirty word, who insisted that if the president wanted to get along, he'd have to lean their way — but Obama is the one who's divisive.
I stopped laughing, though, when I realized that Barnes and the Republican legislators aren't the only ones who are so myopic. They've convinced a large portion of the electorate that black is white and night is day, and they're likely to vote accordingly.
This kind of dishonesty is not good for America.
BETHANY PARE
Winston-Salem
Finish the Thought
Briefly complete the sentence below and send it to us atletters@wsjournal.com. We'll print some of the results in a few days. Only signed entries, please — no anonymous ones.
"Americans can strike a balance between individualism and shared effort if ..."
List of Republican Offenders we got fraud, corruption, bribery, dui, rape, pedophiles, child pornography, beastiality (Neal Horsely,top that), lews conduct, espionage
ReplyDeleteAbramoff, Jack
Adams, Tom
Adams, Jim
Aiken, Steve
Alishtari, Abdul Tawala Ibn Ali
Allen, Bob
Allen, Claude
Allen, Bill
Alonos, Miram
Anderson, Tom
Ankeney, Randal David
Aragoncillo, Leandro
Atchison, John David R.
Bakker, Jim
Barclay, Bruce
Barnes, Martin G.
Barter, Merrill Robert
Beaird, John
Bena, Parker J.
Beres, Lou
Beverage, Sam
Biggins, Bob
Binder, Alan
Bird, Calvin
Bland, Wilton Frederick
Blessing, Louis
Bloom, Philip H.
Blundell, Brian
Bobrick, Bill
Boggio, Scott
Botes, Stephan
Boylan, Joe
Brady, Kevin
Brock, Darrell
Broderick, Thomas
Brooks, Howard L.
Brown, Shawn
Bryan, John
Bundy, Ted
Burcham, Tom
Burghoff, Matthew
Burt, John Allen
Butler, John
Cagle, Charles "Chig"
Cappelli, Angelo
Carona, Deborah
Carona, Michael S.
Carpenter, Jared
Carroll, Cherie
Casamento, Ricahard
Casseday, Randall
Childers, W.D.
Childs, Keola
Cianci, Vincent
Clark, Donald Ross
Coan, Kevin
Collins, John J.
Colyandro, John
Condos, James
Constantine, Lee
Cooper, Nathan
Corrigan, Larry
Cortelyou, Scott Eller
Coughlin ,Paul
Coutretsis, Andrea
Cowdery, John
Craig, Larry
Cramer, Carey Lee
Crawford, Lester
Cunningham, Randy “Duke”
Curtin, John R.
Dasen Sr., Richard A.
Davis, Ronnie
Davison, Pat
DeLay, Tom
Delgaudio, Richard A.
DeShon, Ronnie Gene
Dibble, Peter
Dickens, Joshua
Disponett, Dave
Doolittle, John
Doyle, Dan
Doyle, Victoria
Doyle, Brian J.
Druce, Thomas
Druen, Dan
Elizondo, Nicholas
Ellef ,Peter
Elliott, Matthew Joseph
Ellis, James
Fabian, Alan
Fawell, Scott
Federici, Italia
Fields, Vincent
Fleischman, Donald
Fletcher, Earnie
Flory, Michael
Floyd, Larry Dale
Foggo, Kyle “Dusty”
Fossella, Vito J.
Fox., Galen
Franklin, Larry
Gallagher, Dennis
Gardner, Richard
Garofalo, Dave
Gillin, William
Giordano, Philip
Glavin, Matthew
Gosek, John
Goyette, Richard R.
Graves, David
Grethen, Mark A.
Griles, J. Steven
Groe, Trish
Habay, Jeffrey
Hamilton Jr., John J.
Hansen, Shaun
Harbin, Ben
Harding, Russell
Harris, Mark
Hazlette, Tim
Healy, Chris
Heaton, William
Heldreth, Howard Scott
Hicks, Brian
Hiller, Bradley R.
Hintz, Mike
Hoffman, Debra V.
Holland, Robert
Holt, Delecia
Hooks Sr., Michael
Hopfengardner, Bruce D.
Are these the standards you were referring to Bucky?
DeleteHorsley, Neal (the overall winner of perversity award)
ReplyDeleteHouchen, Pamela J.
Hughes, J. Marshall
Hurley, Steven M.
Iadanza, Richard
Matricarid, Edmund III
Isenhour, James K.
Jacoby, Mark
James, Rayfield
Janklow, Bill
Jensen, Scott
Jones, Jody
Juliano, Richard
Kaelin, Jeffrey
Kauffman, Allen D.
Kelty, Matt
Kerik, Bernie
Kidan, Adam
Kimmerling, Earl "Butch"
King, Lawrence E. "Larry" Jr.
Klaudt, Ted
Kline, Ronald C.
Kohring, Vic
Kontogiannis, Thomas
Kott, Pete
Knapp, Max
Lambert, James R.
Law, David
Lay ,Michael Aaron
Leonard, Richard
Leung, Katrina
Libby, I. Lewis "Scooter"
Limbaugh, Rush
Linnen, Stephen
Loeper Jr., F. Joseph
Looper, Byran "Low Tax"
Loren-Maltese, Betty
Lukens, Donald "Buz"
Luongo, Gerald J.
Malloy, Patrick G.
Malone, Lance
Manuel, Thomas G.
Martin, Hayes
Mathes Jr., James R.
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Matthews, Jon
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McCurnin, Joseph
McGee, Charles
McGuire, Patrick Lee
Meadows, Cory
Merla, John
Michael, John
Mixon, Michael
Monteleone Jr., Joseph
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Murgatroyd, Dick
Murphy Jr., Glenn
Muschany, Scott
Nash, James J.
Neal, Rebecca
Newton, Chris
Ney, Bob
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Nielsen, Jeffrey
Nighbert, Bill
Nixon Jr., Kenneth E.
Noe, Bernadette
Noe, Thomas
Noonan, Thomas J.
Novak, Lawrence
Nugent, Johnny
O’Grady, Raymond
Oleen, Lana
Ortloff, George Chris
Owens, Leonard Ray
Palughi, Anthony J.
Parker, Brent
Patti, Jeffrey
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Prokos, Alexandra
Pugh, Edward
Rader, Dennis L.
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Ravenel, Thomas
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Regola, Robert
Renzi, Rick
Rice, Steve
Ring, Kevin
Ringo, Robert R.
RoBold, Warren
Rosen, Steve
Rowland, John
Rudy, Tony
Russell, Beverly
Ryan, George
Safavian, David Hossein
Scanlon, Michael
Scannapieco, Matthew V.
Schepp, Brent
Schofield, Robert T.
Schrenko, Linda
Scott, Randy
Seidensticker, Mark
Shaner, Matt
Shortridge, Tom
Siljander, Mark Deli
Skandalakis, Mitch
Skiles, Paul
Slocum, William
Smeltzer Jr., Fred C.
Smith, Rick
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Stroupe Jr, Wade
Stumbo, Bobby
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Swartz, David
Symington, Fife
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Teele, Arthur
Temple, Merle
Thompson, Joe
Thompson, Donald
Thomson, Gary Russell
Tobin, James
Treffinger, James
Trout, Harold Anthony "Tony"
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Van Vleet, Rick D.
Vanderwall, Robin
Velella, Guy J.
Vellanoweth, Robert
Volz, Neil
Wade, Mitchell
Walker, Derek
Walters, Nick
Warner, Larry
Weissmann, Keith
Weldon ,Terance
Westberg, Craig
Westlake, John E. "Jack"
Westmoreland, Keith
Weyhrauch, Bruce
White, C. Stephen
Wilkes ,Brent
Williams, Robin
Wilson, Bob
Zachares, Mark
Zimmerman, Al
I'm sure the list of Democrats would be longer because Democrats are generally sleazer people.
DeleteI wonder how many felonies Rep. Barney Frank (D) committed before the Supreme Court ruled that buggery was okay?
DeleteIt seems like Democrats are always messing with somebodies' anal cavity in one form or another.
Deletelol, when one shows you facts, you resort to this? I have no doubt the democratic list is long too, but I see my point made it's mark.
DeleteBold and outrageous.
ReplyDeleteDivisive.
These things are the wages of "identity politics". This type of politics is designed to divide. Sometimes they backfire and one identity gets pitted against another.
And when one starts reading History other than that which we were taught in high school, one realizes that has always been the American way.
DeleteThat's why I put no time frame on it.
DeleteTruths told. You are correct about our current unsustainable fiscal path. That which is unsustainable will not be. Math over rules all. Various European nations are in the throes of this danger right now. Their leaders are twisting and turning and lying just to postpone the inevitable. America is just a few short years behind some of these countries. Currently we most resemble France. Our Federal Reserve Chairman has told Congress that monetary policy has run its course and it is in the hands of policy makers now. Central planners and central bankers will always come to the same end and we are near.
ReplyDeleteMost people understand all this at some level. However in the political class, some don't acknowledge this to be a looming emergency, but rather an opportunity...don't let a good crisis go to waste. We have to be hurt badly before we act. Summer 2008 should have been the wake up but we printed money to avoid the inevitable. It will show itself in time from a far deeper hole.
WW, I often hear a comparison of National debt to individual debt, homeowners specifically. The current debt is a bit over 100% of GDP. My question is when an individual buys a home and goes in debt, what is the typical ratio of that debt to the GYI.
DeleteIndividual debt loads are improving, thanks in part to deficit spending at the federal level.
DeleteHaving everyone deleverage at once is a recipe for disaster...look at Europe for Pete's sake.
Phargo...To compare the two, our nations debt exceeds our GDP by a tad. For a homeowner, if his house payment equals or exceeds his income, he will not get a loan---at least in the days before we lost our minds during the real estate bubble. It wasn't that many years ago that a lender would want the repayment amount not to exceed about 30% of income. Sometimes 25%. Also, back then, a lender would require a down payment toward the house as a condition for giving the loan. Payments on the loan would pay down the debt. Our government no longer pays down debt.
Deletebut the total debt held on the house will typically exceed the yearly income in the early years by more than 100%?
DeleteEven David Koch, chairman of Americans for Prosperity, says we should increase revenues by raising taxes. Now that's some change.
DeletePhargo, yes it will. If not, then there may have been no need to borrow, just bank a few years of income and buy the house for cash. Otherwise the buyer has made his downpayment and intends to pay off the loan in 15 or 30 years or however many years the contract called for. It is a loan that is intended to be paid to zero with the house as the lender's security. During the R/E bubble, many people would tap the equity in their homes to buy other goods on credit. In other words, they used credit to leverage still more credit. Bubbles are made of this kind of thing and are kept inflated as long as the values are rising and lenders will keep lending. All bubbles burst. And here we are.
DeleteI haven't read about Koch, but even he can be wrong unless he is talking in terms of an overhauled tax code that raises revenue from efficiency and less complexity.
DeleteAh yes, equity loans.
DeleteI think that everybody that I knew in the late 1980s and throughout the 1990s was deluged with brochures and flyers from equity loan specialists making "offers too good to refuse" for a "cheap" line of credit.
So you'd go to somebody's house and there would be five or six unpaid for SUVs in their driveway and a brand new 10,000 square foot multi-level landscaped deck and a huge new swimming pool and solid gold fixtures in the 1,500 square foot bathroom and other luxuries that the king of Persia would have envied. The only thing missing was the slaves with the long handled peacock feather fans.
I bet they miss all that nowadays.
You knew some of those people too? We lost "friends" because of this type of living. We stayed right here and did our thing while others got "equity rich". Well, they ain't now. I am not one to say "told you so", but I have told a couple of the more insufferable ones that we do still have a completely finished downstairs if they get in bad enough straits. I said it politely....
Delete$90,000 two-story four-car garage.
DeleteGood gosh almighty!
DeleteThat started out as a $60,000 four car garage, then grew a second story. I believe that that goes well beyond "wretched excess".
DeleteHow did they park cars upstairs?
DeleteThe upstairs part was added by madame to be her salon, studio, guesthouse, servant's quarters or ultimate refuge when she could no longer stand being around her spouse, children, friends, relatives, visitors, etc., which was frequently.
DeleteI trust you know I was joking. Madame sounds like a divorcee who was once married to me.
DeleteFinish the thought."Americans can strike a balance between individualism and shared effort if ...". I think you should have finished the thought a little more first.
ReplyDeleteThe U.S. was founded on shared interests and responsibility. I wonder how many of the first settlers would have survived had they not shared those things?
ReplyDeleteLTE #1 – Oh, Lord, how much more of this must we bear? Please, Lord, smiteth these Philistines, or at least shut them up.
ReplyDeleteLTE #2 – “African Americans for Ron Paul”, “African Americans for Rick Perry”, “African Americans for Freedom”, etc. You name it, some African Americans are for it.
There’s probably even a group called “African Americans for Neal Horsely”.
LTE #3 – “Henny Penny, Henny Penny…the sky is falling, the sky is falling!”
Jesus, Chicken Little, why don’t you go hang out with the stadium bunch?
LTE #4 – No kind of dishonesty is good for anybody.
Finish the Thought – “Americans can strike a balance between individualism and shared effort if…they ever realize just how unimportant they are.
Arthur, I read here the other day that good fortune had come your way? A new job, elevation to the peerage?
ReplyDeleteI got the job I was hoping for. It's in the federal system, so I'm hoping it's secure. Plus the bennies are really sweet.
DeleteGood man!
DeleteGreat news, Arthur. You get a job and I get a farm. We both found what we were looking for.
DeleteHey, Arthur.....you being a hot-shot lawyer and all, I know this isn't necessary, but I just wanted to remind you that there's something called the 'Hatch' Act. You better keep that in mind while your at your new job. Hee Hee.
DeleteOf course, everybody knows you're just punching your ticket. You won't be there long.
Liberals....they're always up to something.
Thanks guys. Things tend to work out for me in the end...just have to be prepared to deal with life's bullshit in the interim.
DeleteBucky -- tough talk from a guy who got canned from a volunteer job.
DeleteObama is a lot like Rush, he wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in his Clinton.
ReplyDeleteHe's going to use the money (that we borrowed) for wars, to pay down the debt and 'other' things. Oh brother.
The sad thing is that there are people out there that believe him, AND Rush.
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OBAMA: ‘‘I'll use the money we’re no longer spending on war to pay down our debt and put more people back to work — rebuilding roads and bridges, schools and runways. After two wars that have cost us thousands of lives and over a trillion dollars, it’s time to do some nation-building right here at home.’’
The 'Phantom' Peace Dividend-Pathetic!
Deletehttp://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/president/candidates/obama/2012/09/06/fact-check-obama-and-the-phantom-peace-dividend/EHk9qaZlXBT7raKsvO9zJP/story.html
Here is a remarkable kind of catalog of what it was like to be a "pioneer" in the Western NC mountains in the late 18th and early 19th century:
ReplyDeletePioneer Life in Western NC
Quite a lot of reading. My Mother in law's people migrated from the coast and settled a bit in present day Rutherford County where many are buried. The younger ones moved west through the mountains and settled in present day Clay County as well as Madison and Buncombe counties. This was in the mid 1830s. We have written correspondence among them that survived as well as annecdotes passed from grandparents to grandchildren about life then in that world. No easy time.
DeleteThere is also a very good book by Charles Frazier, author of Cold Mountain, called Thirteen Moons. I highly recommend it.
DeleteI'll check it out in time. Mrs WWs grandmother used to delight in telling the occasional "flat lander" that she lived so far back in the mountains that the sun actually set between her land and the nearest town. Scotts Irish humor. Some listeners seemed to believe her. Today they are called tourists.
DeleteI've hiked up to the top of 'Cold Mountain'. Really not much to it. But of course, there are always these morbidly fat people, like Rush, that try it, and have to turn back after about a mile or so.
DeleteWW, sounds like "The Hollow" north of Mt. Airy. Up there they say that the sun comes up around noon and sets 15 minutes later.
DeleteI see that Dunce has once again strayed into dangerous territory. First it was the ABCs, which we have heard nothing about lately. Tambù!
DeleteThen it was the Philadelphia restaurant scene. Nothing about Le Bec-Fin lately either.
Now he has wandered into another of my stomping grounds, Cold Mountain. Actually, the Cold Mountain trail is a sideshow, a little spur off the 30 mile Art Loeb, one of the longest, toughest and most spectacular trails in NC. We try to do it at least twice a year.
People who hike the Cold Mountain spur are often disappointed, because there is no view from the summit. The trick is knowing about the little spur trail a few few yards from the top which leads to a spectacular view to the south.
Careful, Dunce, there is a colony of sasquatch up there who will leer at and then eat your fromunda stained butt.
The only hiking you do is going to get your daily bag of pot from your local drug dealer. Tell the truth, Rush. Oh, I forgot. You don't know how to do that.
DeleteLook no further than 'The Proposal' to find out where I went. Of course, you went off on a wild 'goose' chase, instead of looking at ursus arctos.
DeleteSounds like the places mentioned by WW and OT are so steep that the owners can sell two sides of the same acre.
DeleteThat's why we still have all this beautiful mountain land.
DeletePut a building on it and it will fall off and no good for agriculture...the roots from the two sides get all tangled up, which makes harvesting a nightmare.
“They Won’t Magically Turn You Into A Lustful Cockmonster”: Chris Kluwe Explains Gay Marriage To The Politician Who Is Offended By An NFL Player Supporting It Kluwe is the punter for the Minnesota Vikings.
ReplyDeleteOne day, there will be laws prohibiting gays from leering at others in public/private bathrooms/showers. I may not be alive when they get here, but they're coming.
DeleteThanks for the article, Phargo. Well written, on target and quite amusing.
DeleteI particularly liked the "narcissistic fromunda stain" part. Boy does that totally describe one of our regular malodors.
Mitt Romney recently attended an event in Florida that was hosted by a man who was convicted in the 90s of trying to smuggle over 2,000 pounds of cocaine into America!
ReplyDeleteImagine if President Obama did such a thing, what would the right wing say?
Here's a list of the drug dealers that Clinton(D) pardoned. And it's long.
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Clinton isn't running for president and just like George Bush isn't running for president. Besides he is the third most popular political figure in America at 69% approval just behind Hillary and Michelle.
DeleteHere's what the right wing would say:
DeleteI'm sure the list of Democrats would be longer because Democrats are generally sleazer people. I wonder how many felonies Rep. Barney Frank (D) committed before the Supreme Court ruled that buggery was okay?It seems like Democrats are always messing with somebodies' anal cavity in one form or another. Hey, Arthur.....you being a hot-shot lawyer and all, I know this isn't necessary, but I just wanted to remind you that there's something called the 'Hatch' Act. You better keep that in mind while your at your new job. Hee Hee.Of course, everybody knows you're just punching your ticket. You won't be there long. Liberals....they're always up to something. Obama is a lot like Rush, he wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in his Clinton.He's going to use the money (that we borrowed) for wars, to pay down the debt and 'other' things. Oh brother.The sad thing is that there are people out there that believe him, AND Rush.OBAMA: ‘‘I'll use the money we’re no longer spending on war to pay down our debt and put more people back to work — rebuilding roads and bridges, schools and runways. After two wars that have cost us thousands of lives and over a trillion dollars, it’s time to do some nation-building right here at home.’’The 'Phantom' Peace Dividend-Pathetic! http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/president/candidates/obama/2012/09/06/fact-check-obama-and-the-phantom-peace-dividend/EHk9qaZlXBT7raKsvO9zJP/story.html I've hiked up to the top of 'Cold Mountain'. Really not much to it. But of course, there are always these morbidly fat people, like Rush, that try it, and have to turn back after about a mile or so. The only hiking you do is going to get your daily bag of pot from your local drug dealer. Tell the truth, Rush. Oh, I forgot. You don't know how to do that. Look no further than 'The Proposal' to find out where I went. Of course, you went off on a wild 'goose' chase, instead of looking at ursus arctos One day, there will be laws prohibiting gays from leering at others in public/private bathrooms/showers. I may not be alive when they get here, but they're coming.
Or something equally as incoherent.
You have a talent for satire OT. Tina Fey's impression of Sarah Palin was devastating because she used verbatim quotes.
DeletePalin is looking smarter and smarter all of the time, particularly after listening to Biden, AND Rush's ad nauseum buffoonery.
DeleteClinton stuck his two cents into the election with his 'powerful' speech, so his prior actions are also subject to review. After all, he vouched for Obama's competency.
Hey, Rush. Why don't you try out for the Michelin dough boy? I bet you'd be perfect for the job.
DeleteI'll bet you look cute when you 'roll' down Cold Mountain.
Hee Hee....liberals, they're always yapping about something.
Since Dunce is a great intellectual himself, he is a great admirer of other brilliant men and women. Lest you think he doesn't know what he's talking about, here are quotes from three of his intellectual heroes, the elite thinkers of the Republican Party:
Delete"The idea that a Congressman would be tainted by accepting money from private industry or private sources is essentially a socialist argument."
Newt Gingrich
"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."
Sarah Palin
"Rape is a method of conception."
Paul Ryan
All that and, as a great gourmet, he prefers to dine at the Lighthouse...oops, I meant Le Bec-Fin.
Paul Ryan is costing Romney Susan's vote.
ReplyDeleteI note that money for Romney ads is being pulled from MI and PA. I don't think this was an R week.