Thursday, September 15, 2011

Winston-Salem Journal LTE's TH 09/15/11

Good AM, folks!

One LTE today, along with responses to a Sum It Up question. Is it a coincidence that monthly LTE contributor Lee's response is adjacent to vocal Readers' Forum poster Diorio's?

Dumbing down
I almost spilled my morning coffee when I read the Sept. 10 letter "Renaissance man." The author states quite clearly that she does not believe "a good president or knowledgeable leader" needs to be versed in, among other things, "science, technology, economics, history and civics." I had to read the letter a few times to make sure the author was not being sarcastic. Sadly, she wasn't.

I'm not sure when we entered the "dumbing down" phase of American politics. Call me crazy, but I have no problem with my elected leaders — of either party — being smarter than me. In fact, that's exactly what I want. And it's exactly what our country needs.

STEVE LINDSLEY
Mount Airy

SUM IT UP
The Sum It Up question from Sunday was: Do you think President Obama's jobs plan will be effective?



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I'm thinking positive about President Obama's jobs plan; yes, it can be.

ELIZABETH R. ERVIN



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So far, Obama's stimulus plans have been blithely conceived in idealism and poorly executed in reality. After almost three years of wonderful speeches, his leadership skills clearly do not match his oratory talents. I have no faith in this president.

MIKE CALLAHAN



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A moot point. The tea party and the other far-right factions of the Republican Party will obstruct so it won't be effective, no matter how good the plan. Their goal is total take-over in 2012, and a decreased unemployment rate is not compatible with that. They want to make Obama look bad at any cost. They've already shown that they'd drive the baby over the cliff just to win/gain control.

KAM BENFIELD



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No, I do not think President Obama's job plan will work. Most components have already been tried and failed. Why do we want to just throw away more money? He ought to do something really novel. Let the Republicans try their ideas with Democrats not holding them back. If they work, it would be great for the country. If they fail, he would have good campaign fodder.

KAY ANDERSON



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In response to your question about Obama's job plans, I don't believe in him at all. He promised a whole lot before he was elected. And this country is worse off since he took office. I say it's time for a new president.

LINDA LUCAS



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Generally, economists give a thumb-up to the jobs plan. However, its effectiveness depends on how quickly it can be pushed through Congress. If Obama succumbs to his discredited guiding principle of compromise at all costs and under all circumstances, he will fall into the congressional Republican trap of protracted fake negotiations. Delay in action by Congress will defeat the purpose of the plan. Will Obama lead this time?

BOON T. LEE



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His entire speech was nothing more than another empty campaign promise. The only things he has accomplished so far are to raise the nation's debt to near bankruptcy, increase unemployment to a new height, accelerate illegal immigration and shrink our military power. His foreign diplomacy is an almost laughable embarrassment. His failure rate is 100 percent. He is the "mouse that roared" who has succeeded at nothing. He is right about "change is coming," though. Change is coming in 2012.

LINDA DIORIO



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President Obama's job plan will fix a part of the problem, which is better than nothing. It won't help at all if political games keep it from getting passed.
If we voters really want to fix the jobs situation, then we need to focus on it. If a newspaper asks for input on same-sex marriage, write to the editor that it's not as important as jobs. If an elected official wants to talk abortion laws, ignore his issue and talk jobs. If a representative wants to tout his record on voter IDs, illegal immigration, spending reduction, tax cuts, unborn-victims laws, or anything else, ask him how many jobs his work has created — and ask him how we can verify his information.
Until those we elect understand that we are serious about jobs, they will distract us with every emotional issue they can and keep on playing their political games instead of working to increase employment.

DOROTHY MATHEWS



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Of course not.

JIM SOUTHERN



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Yes, I think President Obama's job plan will work.

First, some leading nonpartisan economists have said it would work, and second because there are so many needs for repair of our schools and infrastructure.

Children ride to school over bridges that have been declared in need of repair, only to arrive at schools that desperately need expansions and repairs, schools that now have fewer teachers because some have been laid off due to budget cuts.

This argument of tax breaks for the rich and large corporations because they create jobs just doesn't fly anymore. We have tried this for 10 years and where are the jobs?

Wake up, Congress. We don't like you very much anymore.

CYNTHIA GOUGH NANCE



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Effective? You're kidding, right? This is just a rehash of his alleged "stimulus." Nothing specific. No specific cuts. More taxpayer money down a rabbit hole.

A real jobs program would include drilling for oil and gas — that would put people back to work immediately — but he won't sign the permits. A real jobs program would stop strangling businesses with endless regulations. A real jobs program would eliminate Obamacare, which has already cost us countless jobs and will continue to do so. And this is only part of the solution.

Notice: None of these solutions costs taxpayers anything.

CHRISTINE PULISELIC



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While I disagree with some aspects of President Obama's jobs plan, I think it can have a positive effect. It will be difficult for Republicans to oppose it, since many of the key points have been championed by Republicans for years.

Perhaps the most important thing is the need for all sides to compromise. To some that's a dirty word, but the reality is that nothing of any consequence gets accomplished without it, and we must do so for the good of the nation as a whole. It has never been more true that united we stand, divided we fall.

DAVID M. McMAHON



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I don't think it will help the American worker much except for the illegals.

WILLIAM SAMS

93 comments:

  1. Linda Diorio, what a cacophony of falsehoods. First, though the Q-bomb was really a dud, the Duchy of Fenwick won the war and Duchess Gloriana listed her terms. In fact the mouse roared 5 times and won ( also won against superpowers in the 4 sequels). Second, Immigration to this country is down and deportations are at a record high. The unemployment rate is unacceptable but still not a new high, 1982 still has the highest yearly rate at 9.7% and 2010 ties 1983 with a yearly rate of 9.6%. 100% failure rate? laughable foreign policy? > Osama bin Laden<.
    There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call The Twilight Zone.

    —Rod Serling

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  2. LTE1: I agree. The LTE in question indicated the LTE writer's pride in her own ignorance, a condition that I have noted before among the semi-literate.

    SUM IT UP

    Ervin: "It can be"? Or it won't be. Not a very definite answer.

    Callahan: President Obama's oratory skills are only as good as his teleprompter operator's. As for leadership, he is a good community organizer.

    Benfield: Right, the evil Tea Party wants to run us into depression so that we can install President Perry to preside over the ruins. Some of the Tea Party's stances are misguided, but this is a TB response, otherwise.

    Anderson: What Republican ideas? "No new taxes"? Targeted tax cuts (the corporate rate, for example), matched by increases elsewhere (bump the high marginal rate) might help, but spending puts money back in circulation immediately. We mustn't let spending be a Marshall Plan for unions, though.

    Lucas: OK, you don't like the Prez. Next.

    Lee: Compromise discredited? Gee, and I've been griping at the R's for not compromising. Silly me.

    Diorio: the response is a campaign speech in its own right, reminds me of Bachmann's answers in the debates.

    Matthews: the best response of the bunch, good for her.

    Southern: Why?

    Nance: At least she furnished reasons, but I'm not sure I trust these "nonpartisan" economists, as I'm not sure how many of those there are. I agree with the last sentence.

    Puliselic: A shotgun blast of a response. I'm curious about the regulations. Which ones?

    McMahon: I like this response, too.

    Sams: Is your LTE Forum Branch Office sign-on "Bucky"?

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  3. Yay, Bob!! I really LUV the Twilight Zone.

    Forgive Linda, though, for she knows not what she says.

    Really. She DOESN'T know what she says.

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  4. Dumbing down? If watching the recent debates, one would think dumb were up.

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  5. Texas Gov. Rick Perry asked to halt execution
    >>>>Duane Buck's case is one of six convictions that former Texas Attorney General John Cornyn — a political ally of Perry who is now a Republican U.S. senator — reviewed in 2000 and said needed to be reopened because of the racially charged statements made during the sentencing phase of the trial.
    something to keep an eye on today

    http://news.yahoo.com/texas-gov-rick-perry-asked-halt-execution-222902487.html

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  6. Lte1....please don't spill the coffee. It is too valuable a commodity. A good chief executive surrounds himself with capable people to fill out the talent roster as no one person is "smart" enough to fill all the bill, though this current president thinks he is. Why Mr Obama is considered smart is beyond me. I've seen no evidence. He is schooled, degreed and indoctrinated in religious ideology, social ideology and political ideology. Don't mistake a malignant narcissist for an intelligent man. And watch that coffee!

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  7. Will the President's "jobs plan" be effective? Based on the fact that no member of the House Democrat leadership, as of yesterday, has introduced the bill to the House; based on the fact that Senator Reid professes to not be quite sure what to do with the bill until well into next month; based on the fact that this morning's NY Times reports many Democrats are balking at the bill for a host of reasons....I will guess NO. It is a job bill...Obama's job.

    There is a jobs plan that can come from Washington but its make up can't pass with a Democrat in the White House. The ideas and words in the plan can not escape this President's lips. If they did, civil war would begin in his party. No meaningful jobs plan will occur until after Obama is defeated in 2012.

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  8. The President's job plan won't be effective because it won't pass, at least not in its present form. I confess that I have not read it, but I understand that it contains (intentionally?) provisions, including tax hikes, that are non-starters. Tax hikes may or may not be a good idea, but they do NOT create jobs. So why include them? Could the president be hoping that the plan won't pass, so he can blame the GOP, and, of course, George Bush?

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  9. Bo...yes that is his HOPE. It is all he has left. HOPE.

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  10. Hi WW, Bo, LaSombra!

    WW: All I have the CHANGE on top of my dresser.

    Bob: That convicted murderer does indeed deserve a new sentencing hearing. Whether psychologist Quijano's stat is correct or not, one cannot apply the general to the specific. It was also irrelevant. Whether the murderer gets the DP or LWOP, he's no threat to the public. It was specious testimony at best, IMO.

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  11. Stab...guard the dresser well!

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  12. "I confess that I have not read it, but..." rumor and innuendo will do, so here's what I think...blah, blah, blah.

    Classic. It doesn't really matter what is in it, the T Brains will oppose it by knee jerk (double meaning intended here) reaction. Besides, Pat Robertson said that god is opposed to it...he hasn't read it either.

    Anonymous, Jr.

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  13. Anonymous, do you know if there are tax increases in the plan? I did not claim that there were, only that I had heard it. By saying that, I obviously was conditioning my comments on that being true. I hid nothing.

    If you want to play that game, what is your source for saying that I am a "T Brain"?

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  14. If you haven't read the plan, you haven't got any business commenting on any part of it.

    Yes. There are tax increases in the plan, because anyone in their right mind knows that tax increases are necessary to deal with the economic situation. Only a fool would propose such a plan without tax increases.

    If the goof balls in Congress want to play their mindless no taxes game, there is nothing any of us can do about it except vote against them next year.

    Anonymous, Jr.

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  15. Bo:

    My guess is that Buckman is his source.

    "T Brain" is a dead give-away. Also, Buckman was astonished when Anonymous posted without exposing his real identity. Another dead give-away, thus the genesis of Anonymous Jr. The writing style is the third give-away.

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  16. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

    Anonymous, Jr.

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  17. Buckman Jr:

    How's it working for you at FCSOwatch.com?

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  18. Call in the witch doctor

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  19. Need to work on your writing analysis skills, Sombrero.

    No Buckwheat here...

    There's buckwheat cakes and Injun batter,
    Makes you fat or a little fatter;
    Look away! Look away! Look away!
    Dixie Land!

    Anon, Jr.

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  20. Buckman Jr.:

    Well then I guess it's a good thing my name isn't Dixie, 'cause NO ONE looks away from a train wreck.

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  21. Dixie Land? Hell, I say keep the damn flag, just get rid of its supporters.

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  22. Good one Baba Louie!

    It is a beautiful flag and when utilized properly it should be a reminder of the thousands of young men, and not a few women, who killed and died for yet another misguided cause.

    Anon, J.

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  23. like I said, I have no problem with the flag

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  24. Yes, a genuine horror show. Four of my ancestors died, two of them on the same day.

    They were TB's, fighting for their country. Problem is the other guys were fighting for their country too.

    We are conditioned to do that, no matter the cause...my country, right or wrong.

    A, J

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  25. luckily for me, I have ovecome much of my early conditioning.

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  26. And the mission is "to make the other poor dumb b@stard die for HIS country." Or die trying.

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  27. On the day that the local troops left for Danville, the 17-year-old daughter of one of the town's most prestigious leaders presented them with their company flag, made by her and her friends, and delivered the following address:
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    Unworthy as I am to represent the patriotic feelings which swell the hearts of of my Southern sisters, yet I am chosen in behalf of the ladies of Winston to be the deliverer of this ensign to you, and with it our prayers for you as the defenders of our rights, our homes, our all. Unlike other flags that you have been wont to look upon, it is decked with only fifteen stars. The Old “Stars and Stripes” that formerly caused our breasts to throb with such feelings of patriotism, now no longer moves our hearts, but to indignation. Insulted, oppressed, and invaded, a number of our Southern States have estranged themselves from the old Federal Government, and side by side in “conscious pride” the brave sons of the sunny South are doing battle in Freedom’s holy cause.
    Just beyond the borders of our own loved State, on Virginia’s honored soil, where repose the bones of our beloved Washington, the camp fires of the Vandal hordes of the North now gleam and threaten destruction and utter annihilation. But with stout hearts, a firm reliance on the Almighty, and headed by such patriots and soldiers as Davis, Lee, Beauregard and our noble Hill, and with such a determination as is inscribed on your banner, “We’ll Live Free or Die Brave,” the groans of the vanquished usurpers of liberty will soon announce the recognition of our independence, and the shouts of victory will soon ring loud and long throughout this glorious land of Dixie. Believing that wherever glory awaits, that there this flag will be found. We pray for your return, but speed you onward now.
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    They fell for it. It might be noted that none of her brothers or first cousins or uncles were among those marching off to war.

    Junior

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  28. Good afternoon folks!
    LTE: I don't expect the President to be a guru about everything, but I do expect a President to be capable of understanding all of the complexities of all the situations and proposals that will crop up. By the very nature of the job, this will entail being well-versed in science, history, economics, civics and technology. It's hard to make the correct decision when you're totally in the dark about the choices and the consequences of each choice. I agree with Mr. Lindsley that the position requires someone who is extraordinary with extraordinary intelligence. The Presidency is no place for the average Joe/Jane..especially at this time.
    Sum it up: Typical responses from the regulars who either praise the proposal because Obama proposed it or condemn it because Obama proposed it. My guess is that if you ask the responders who reflexively answered what is actually in the proposal, they wouldn't even know. At least Mr. Lee and Ms. Nance cite reactions from economists to back their opinions and Ms. Matthews and Mr. McMahon took an objective view...which is very refreshing for a change. Evaluation based on the merits instead of on who submitted the proposal...what a concept!

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  29. Good PM, AJ and dotnet!

    dotnet, this site lacks cutesies such as Like or TU/TD, but consider your 1:25 awarded a TU.

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  30. From last night- Stab - if you want to see the Patriot Act in action, try buying a house using funds from a mutual fund as downpayment.

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  31. Well, we had a comment above from Bo, who had not read it either. Life is easy when you don't even have to think about it.

    Who are all these "anonymous" people. We know that one is Wordly, because he signs his. But the other two seem to be quivering cowards who cannot post even under an assumed name, sort of like Dick Cheney hiding for 7 years in an undisclosed location. I think they both should be deported, especially junior, who is clearly a nit-wit.

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  32. Good PM, OT!

    This site prizes diversity, including nitwits, so no deportation orders at this time.

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  33. I was hoping to get that boy sent down mexico way today, or by tomorrow at least. Don't like his sassy attitude.

    As dotnet points out, the Patriot Act has inserted its fingers into the butt of practically every type of financial institution. Just the cost of starting a new mutual fund was tripled.

    Hey, Junior, run for your life...here comes momma with a butcher knife.

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  34. OT, a proponent of the "Jobs Act", Anonymous, admits that there are tax increases in it. Tax increases do not create jobs. The President could call it a Tax Act or an Economic Act, but if there are tax increases, it is NOT a Jobs Act. Does anyone have a link to the President's Act?

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  35. http://www.whitehouse.gov/jobsact#sub1-tab

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  36. OT, I suspect that particular Anonymous would regard relocation to Mexico as I would being dropped into Solidarity House or you would being compelled to attend lectures at Bob Jones U.

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  37. I wonder what a family reunion looks like in the Anonymous family? The family tree grows pretty tall before it forks I'll bet.

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  38. Ah, the guys all go to family reunions to meet girls.

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  39. thanks for the reminder, I have a Johnson family reunion this Saturday at Quaker Gap Baptist Church

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  40. In news that should please me, the House voted 238-186 to crack down on the NLRB, and stop it from restricting a business from locating where it wishes. However, only 8 Dems voted for the bill (7 R's voted against it). Thus, it'll be DOA in Harry Reid's (D-Hotel Workers Union) Senate. So, basically, this is a feelgood waste of time.

    However, this needs to be appended to the stimulus bill.

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  41. Attending lectures at BJU (you know what the students down there say about those initials)? Probably as much fun as it is possible to have.

    WW, are you saying that the growth of the anon family tree was nipped in the bud?

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  42. BJU? Bill Clinton is Commencement speaker?

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  43. Vice is nice but incest is best?

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  44. Nipped in the bud maybe. Or waited way late to take it outside the family.

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  45. I have read through the Jobs Act now (155 pages) and indeed there are tax increases of various kinds, including treating certain capital gains as ordinary income (depressing investment) and reducing certain allowed deductions. There is also a brand new federal agency, the American Infrastructure Financing Authority. I guess jobs ARE created there, paid for by government, i.e., the rest of us.

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  46. I believe Clinton has been appointed chair of the English Department at BJU. He will teach a course in the meaning of "is". He will have several female TAs under his desk...I mean under his supervision. And he will oversee the making of the eagerly awaited documentary film "Girls Gone Wild at BJU".

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  47. If all the girls at BJU were laid end-to-end, I wouldn't be surpised.

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  48. Oh, they will be.

    Seriously, BJU is the home church of all the bigots, racists and general hatemongers:

    Bob Jones University bans interracial dating. George W.'s brother Jeb, the Florida governor who is married to a Latina, could not have graduated. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, who has a white wife and who was appointed by George W.'s father, could not have graduated.

    Bob Jones also practices homophobia. Two years ago, when a gay, 60-year-old alum asked if he could come back to visit the school, the dean of students wrote back, ''With grief we must tell you that as long as you are living as a homosexual, you, of course, would not be welcome on the campus and would be arrested for trespassing if you did. We take no delight in that action. Our greatest delight would be in your return to the Lord.''

    Maybe when Ricky's run for POTUS collapses he can become POBJU.

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  49. Bob Jones's Boys used to come in droves to Scandals Nightclub in Asheville on the weekends. They brought us Miss Evangelica Huston.

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  50. There are more queens at Bob Jones U than a Russian Chess Federation championship.

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  51. I recall that years ago BJU petitioned the SC legislature for permission to arm its security people with fully automatic weapons. Apparently, .357's and 12-gauges were deemed insufficient to protect the school's coeds, who were the stated reason for the request. The request was denied.

    Over at Wofford, where I was a student, we joked that the school wanted the submachineguns to keep the students in, not aggressors out. We also joked that for a lot of the coeds, their appearances were sufficient protection.

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  52. Hey, rushman, BJU is the top academic school in the country. You run it down just because you couldn't get in, nit-wit.

    You're probably one of those mongrel degenerates who hangs out in public bathrooms like that buckwhatever guy.

    junior

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  53. Bob, one year I was at Wofford, the football team won the NAIC championship. The basketball team lost about 30 games. I transferred to Guilford. Its football team lost about 2 dozen games in a row over 3 seasons. The basketball team won the NAIC championship, sent a couple of players to the pros.

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  54. and it opened it's doors one century before I was born. Wofford has excellent academic and athletic programs.

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  55. and Junior, BJU isn't even to top academic institution in Greenville County, much less the country. SMH

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  56. you educated people all think you know everything and us uneducated people are dumb and don't know nothin but your wrong we know something sometime because the law of averages says that sometimes we do and the same goes for obama's job bills, so there and common sense too

    junior

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  57. I think junior is becoming slightly unhinged and may need a vacation down in Yucatan, although he does have a couple of points...the law of averages and common sense are a deadly combination.

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  58. A broken clock is right twice a day.

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  59. I don't know, Junior, I would generalize about educated or uneducated people. I do know that the more I learn, the more I realize just how uneducated I am.

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  60. Ha, see you all think you are so smart but I know stuff that you don't...if a broken clock says six o'clock it's ALWAYS right, I know because my momma liked to take a drink now and then and she would say "It's always six o'clock somewhere in the world" so there and common sense too.

    and that rushbush thinks he knows so much well I know where Yuca Town is its in Saint Bernard County in California and I've been there too that's where they have those big dogs so there

    Anon, Junior

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  61. correction: I would NOT generalize about.......

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  62. You don't suppose that Junior, having won all the arguments, has retreated to Yuca Town, do you?

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  63. Junior, my compliments to your mom, a resourceful woman, obviously.

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  64. Bob is going to have a great weekend at the reunion at Quaker Gap Baptist, a beautiful setting in the shadow of Cook's Wall. There will be a couple of jugs hidden in the woods behind the church. He ought to take Senor Buckwheat, because there will be a lot of Johnsons hanging out..

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  65. lol, there will be Johnsons on Slates, and Johnsons on Teddars, and lots of Johnsons behind the Petrees.

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  66. He will name the site a shrine.

    Bob: I see where the Supremes are going to look at Duane Buck's appeal, thank goodness.

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  67. Ha, ha...Johnsons here, Johnsons there, Johnsons everywhere. Like I said, I think Buckwheat would enjoy it! I thought Petree was what you did after taking a drink from the jug.

    As to Junior's post, once worked with a guy who took his first drink of the day around 10 AM, and would always say what Junior's mother said.

    His favorite drink was tequila and coke, so would cup his hand around his ear and say "I hear Jose calling." And his favorite toast was "Providing jobs for starving Mexicans."

    Actually, in those days, the low end Jose Quervo was bottled in San Antonio to avoid the Mexican purity laws, so was not legally tequila.

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  68. That is good news. Perry has already allowed one faulty execution...Bush racked up one as well during his term as gov.

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  69. Clinton did also, permitted the execution of that retarded guy to show how tough on crime he could be.

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  70. Bob, just caught your profile photo, now laughing.

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  71. Well whataya gonna do? They won't let us burn 'em anymore.

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  72. Yes he did. To me, that is shameful, and murder.

    Here is a fascinating site that includes a list, not quite complete, of persons executed in NC from Colonial times to the present:

    http://blacksheepancestors.com/usa/north_carolina.shtml

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  73. lol,like I said, sometimes one just has to go with it

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  74. that says blacksheepancestors, I'm not so sure I want to look, lol, I already found out my Great Grandmother was married 4 times but never to my Great Grandfather, and she was a preacher's daughter.

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  75. Junior will really like it.

    Executing that retarded guy started me rethinking the DP. If a guy can be bumped off out of cynical political expediency, then the DP needed to be rethought. Took me a few years to rethink it, and the final thought came from an unlikely source ("Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," too long to explain), but I have been opposed to the DP for several years.

    Not at all unhappy re Bin Laden's departure. Warfare is a different matter. To hell with him.

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  76. Your great grandmom sent some good genes down the line, Bob, judging from you and your sis.

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  77. Ha, ha...and the trolls say that "marriage" is sacred.

    The 1st study of dna as used in genealogy shows that about 1 out of 8 Americans have been given false information as to who their father was. Some experts think that the rate may be considerably higher.

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  78. Bob, there are still a few states that allow electrocution, at the option of the condemned. Look for a geographic pattern here:

    Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia. we are surrounded. Some of those are date limited.

    Washington allows hanging, if requested.

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  79. OT, does UT still allow the firing squad?

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  80. My "good neighbors" comment was re misidentification of fathers, not our nearby states.

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  81. In Utah, those requesting firing squad before May 3, 2004 MAY get it. Up in the air at the moment.

    As to good neighbors...Daniel Boone's favorite daughter, Jemima, who he made a daring rescue of when she was kidnapped by Indians at age 14, and who took care of him in his old age, was fathered by his BROTHER while Daniel was away on a two year hunting and trapping expedition.

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  82. Yep. One of my favorite Boone stories. He had intended the trip to be one year, but when he started home, the Indians, who had been watching him all the time, relieved him of a fortune in furs.

    He decided that he couldn't return empty handed, so decided to extend the hunt for a year. No iPhone, so nobody knew. The same thing happened the second year, but this time the Indians took his traps and horses as well. So he had to walk home from Kentucky.

    When he found the baby in the crib at the foot of the bed, he asked Rebecca "What's this?" She explained that everyone thought that he was dead, so the baby was his brother's. Life goes on, Daniel.

    Daniel thought about it for a minute or so, then said "Well, OK, what's her name."

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  83. And when he learned her name, he wanted pancakes.

    Nighty night.

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