Wednesday, September 7, 2011

Winston-Salem Journal LTE's WE 09/07/11

Good AM, folks!

Comments re very early AM posts re Bucky's favorite topic may be posted in the Leopard's Limb. This would be preferable to disrupting continuity here.

Entitled
The letter writer whose tongue-in-cheek suggestion of "human sacrifice" as appeasement for the earthquake and the hurricane ("Volunteers," Aug. 29) no doubt struck a chord with many of your readers. Those who follow abortion statistics know that more than 50 million people have been "sacrificed" in the womb since abortion was made legal in 1973 with the Roe v. Wade decision. In the beginning it was a clever confusion strategy — "it's just a blob of tissue." Now with ultra-sounds and pre-natal surgery, that canard just won't hunt.

Today we are entitled, we are told, to do whatever we want with our bodies despite the fact that another human being has taken up residence with us.

ROSE WALSH
Lewisville

Cheney truths
Dick Cheney's memoir, "In My Time," has been released. We can all look forward to the chapters on how water-boarding and other enhanced interrogation techniques led to the finding and killing of Osama bin Laden; how the tremendous success of the Iraq War has led to the democratic uprisings of the "Arab Spring;" on how two unfunded wars and tax cuts can line the pockets of the defense industry and the rich, double the national debt, and still trickle down the economic boom we are all now enjoying; on how to obtain multiple war-time draft exemptions and still be considered a warrior hero; on his modest contribution to the enormous growth of the intelligent prosthetics industry in the U.S.; on how a truly great man can always be right and, with that firm belief, sleep like a baby at night; and, of course, on how it is possible to make a lot of money writing a book explaining the truth of his historic contributions to all the fools that surround him.

RICHARD B. HILTON
Advance

Just the opposite
The media and the liberals love to blame the tea party and the Republicans for the recent credit-rating downgrade. They say it was their fault for holding America hostage to their ideology. They wouldn't compromise.

The problem was just the opposite. The debate was over whether the debt should be allowed to rise by $8 trillion or $10 trillion over the next 10 years.

It's just assumed by everyone that we are going to keep spending money we don't have. They should go back to 2008-level spending and have smaller increases, not the 12 percent President Obama keeps raising our spending to.

The tea party demands that the spending be held down and is castigated as being unbending and mean-spirited. Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters recently said, "…as far as I'm concerned, the 'tea party' can go straight to hell." Where is the outrage from Obama and the left that she is being uncivil, as they accused Republican Rep. Joe Wilson of being? Where is the demand for nonpartisanship that they love to yell at the right?

When will the liberals finally understand that you can't keep spending money you don't have? There's a saying: "The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money." The tea party wants to have some restraint in spending levels. The economy will rebound and begin to produce tax revenues when this administration shows some restraint and intelligence around spending.

DAVID F. MOSER
Winston-Salem

Defining marriage
Rep. Dale Folwell says, "We need to put the decision to the people so that they can define what marriage is, and not us" ("House GOP leaders push marriage vote," Aug. 30). That sounds very well. The fine people of this state should be given the chance to define marriage.

Perhaps, in this time of evolving social norms, the people of this state may wish to redefine our antiquated notion of marriage — which historically has more to do with owning women as property. However, the Republicans have already done the defining for us. The vote — if it ever came to the people — would be for or against amending the state constitution. That's it. That is not defining marriage. It's merely voting whether to ingrain deeper into the state's laws the idea that change is bad.

In fact, the defining has already been done by the General Assembly when it passed a statute defining marriage as between a "male and female person." So what's with the need to doubly ban same-sex marriage in this state?

I don't know what to think of the policies being pushed by the Republicans in this country. Out of one side of their mouths, they scream for deregulation and small government. Out of the other side, they demand government intrusion into the private lives of the people. The goal behind the hypocrisy is to keep the government's hands off the conservatives who think the government's only job is to crush social movements that make them feel uneasy.

MARK LAWSON
Lewisville

33 comments:

  1. LTE1: Abortion is the law. The American people have shown little interest overall in changing it. The argument is over.

    LTE2: TB rant. This LTE could have used an editor. I consists of but two sentences. The latter sentence rambles on in a caffeinated fashion for 162 words, a good sized paragraph in its own right.

    LTE3: Many hands are dirty in our financial mess, including those of We the People. Maxine "No Justice No Peace" Waters is a disgrace to her office, and would be well advised to take her own advice to the Tea Party. Junior Hoffa made remarks in a similar vein, giving proof to the saying, "It takes one to know one."

    LTE4: The Republican emphasis on social issues such as marriage diverts effort and attention from areas of actual concern. Passage of this amendment will ratify 2nd-class citizenship, be thrown out by the courts, and will create not one additional paycheck, except in hours billed by attorneys' offices

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  2. "Today we are entitled, we are told, to do whatever we want with our bodies despite the fact that another human being has taken up residence with us." So Rose, what would you do with humans that take up resdiency illegally? I'm a human, suppose I take up residency in your house?

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  3. It's interesting how the abortion law is settled, yet marriage laws are open for discussion? As far as I'm concerned, all of man's laws are open for discussion at any time, all of the time.

    I've alway thought that if Republicans would get out of the abortion debate, the Democrats would have little chance of getting elected because women would come over to the Republican Party in droves.

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  4. I spent some time listening to James Hoffa's recent speech. At first, I didn't think he was inciting violence. However, after putting his SOB comment in context, he was.

    Hoffa seems hell bent on ensuring that unions continue to have a thugery reputation.

    I've never had much repect for unions. I have even less now.

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  5. Bob: that is an interesting dichotomy, unsettled marriage v. settled abortion law. I also note JD's comment elsewhere re letting gay fellows marry: no abortions will result.

    Bucky: I agree with your sentiments, though I think Hoffa Jr. probably meant getting the SOB's at the ballot box. I doubt he would be terribly troubled if goons did indeed assault opponents, though.

    I also note the silence from the union-owned left about the rude comment. Had it been the other way around, the denunciations from the left would have resounded for days. Civility is only supposed to go one way. In this case, it is inevitable. Unions are based on coercion, not civility.

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  6. Morning all...barely. The speech by Organized Crime Boss Hoffa coupled with the over the top rantings of the CBC members is indicative of one thing: the Obama people and the left have lost the economic-intellectual debate. Their reactions are instructive and offer a view in how to manage the campain from here on.

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  7. The media reaction- or lack there of, was predictable to Hoffa's slobbering. It would not be such a screaming "say what" if Obama had not made that eloquent speech on "civility" in Arizona after that tragic shooting last November.

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  8. Hey Bob. That dichotomy appears to be exhibited by various writers of LTE's and by R legislators in Raleigh.

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  9. Obama is pretty much a lame duck president. The Republicans are not even going to give a rebuttal to Obama's jobs speech.

    The football game is going to come on afterwards, so why bother. Most people will be too tanked up to effectively listen anyway.

    I think this next election could be really ugly. Bobby what was the worst loss by a president in history? Carter to Reagan?

    I honestly think Obama could lose 56 out of the 57 states.

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  10. There will be a lot more of these stories in the future-Man with a dog collar on wakes up with a dead man in his hot tub. Drugs/alcohol involved.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20102597-504083.html?tag=cbsnewsTwoColLowerPromoArea;fd.morenews

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  11. Good afternoon folks!
    LTE 1: Abortion. Incidentally, abortion counts include spontaneous abortions also known as miscarriages.
    LTE 2: The reactions to Cheney's book seem to reveal a rather divided and dysfunctional executive team during W.'s tenure. Unfortunately, W's gut feelings led him to trust the wrong people, such as Cheney, in his decision making. While other VP's have written books on various topics, I don't recall another memoir on the WH years. That's generally left to the President. Oops, that's right..this is Cheney, Bush.
    LTE 3: A rant regurgitating talk radio points. If someone wants to see why S&P did downgrade US debt, all they have to do is go to the S&P website and see for themselves...that is if they would take off the ideological tinted glasses. What is so magical about the 2008 budgetary amount that it should serve as the benchmark going forward? Does it take into account the wars, recession of 2008-2009 lingering effects, population increase and double digit UR? Is Mr. Moser even familar with how a govt budget is determined? Consumer demand for goods/services has absolutely nothing to do with govt. spending.
    LTE 4: Another good response to Folwell...particulary the last sentence.

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  13. I don't know why people would be in favor of legalizing drugs when stories similar to the one above are occurring.

    Do people think that if the government legalizes drugs these stories will just go away?

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  14. The Democrat Party is obviously in a real quandary. The party knows its members are not for Obama, because after all, most of its members not insane. So, they had to invent a boogeyman, and that boogeyman is the Tea Party.

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  15. Bucky, that crime, whatever it was, was committed when drugs are illegal. I don't see your point.

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  16. My point is: If drugs are legalized, and they are readily accessible, do people, such as yourself, think that people will stop taking them and the tragic stories will stop?

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  17. No, I do not. But, again, this tragic story over which you shed crocodile tears has occurred when drugs are illegal, but obviously easily obtainable. I believe you said alcohol (legal) was involved as well?

    To spend billions fighting a war that is not only unwinnable but lost is illogical. We're making multimillionaires out of scumbags, and watching a slaughter.

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  18. So your point is make it legal so we can tax it and get money to pay hospital bills etc.

    That still doesn't stop people from doing drugs. We need to stop the demand, period. That will stop many of these sad stories.

    I don't know how to do it, but I'm against making it more available, that will just lead to more chaos and crime.

    England legalized drugs and they had to reverse their laws because there was so much chaos.

    Little kids chew cocoa leaves in Bolivia and Peru...is that what we want for our children?

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  19. Bucky, decriminalizing drugs will keep lot's of people out of prison that shouldn't be there and save million, yea billions of dollars, but the "for-profit" jails are against it. and remember: " “America has the longest prison sentences in the West, yet the only condition long sentences demonstrably cure is heterosexuality.”

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  20. Much was made of the alleged damage caused by David Blunkett's decision in 2004(England) to downgrade cannabis to a class C drug – in practice decriminalising its personal use – but this did not result in more drug use. Indeed, the official Home Office figures show a long-term decline in cannabis use in England and Wales among 16- to 24-year-olds, from 26% in 1996 reporting they had used it in the last year, to 16% in 2009-10. The "experiment" in decriminalisation between 2004 and 2009 (when cannabis was reclassified as a class B drug) did nothing to reverse this trend.

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  21. Ignorant people confuse the legal status of drugs with the availability of drugs.

    Drugs could not possibly be more available than they are right now. Anyone who wants drugs in W-S and can pay for them can get them. Many drug dealers now deliver, just like the pizza guy.

    The Cato Institute, a conservative think tank, calculates that legalization would save at least $41 billion per year, and that taxing drugs would bring in an additional $47 billion, a total swing of $88 billion per year.

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  22. Rush/Kitty Kat......sounds like you live in the illicit drug culture world, which I kinda figured out long ago. I would have no idea of where to go or who to call to get drugs in Winston-Salem. So, for me, they are not readily available.

    Furthermore, I have no interest in finding out that information.

    I'm probably out for a morning run when you're puking in your toilet.

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  23. OT Rush-- we agree on something! IF the drug users are solely responsible for the medical costs associated with their habit, and are not allowed to rely upon government, i.e., the rest of us, to handle the consequences of their decisions.

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  24. How about alkies, Bo? Legal substance and far and away the biggest drug problem in the US. Can we make them pay too?

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  25. My grandmother was right...say the name of the devil and he will come.

    I said "ignorant" and look who popped up...Senor Buckram. There are two possible etymologies...

    1. Buckram is a stiff cloth, in the US usually polyster, used to bind books. It is ugly, but nearly indestructible...sounds like our man.

    2. Buck Ram was a songwriter, producer, manager and the creator of the famous group The Platters, considered to be one of the great men of the early rock 'n' roll era.

    He wrote "The Great Pretender" in the washroom of the Flamingo Hotel in Vegas...sounds like our man.

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  26. And weed's probably safer than booze. Just saying.

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  27. Kitty Kat...go out and buy yourself some Brooks 'Beast' running shoes like I have, and get your drugged out, flabby body in shape. You'll probably make more sense when you post in here afterwards.

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  28. Good evening, folks! Glad to see OT, Bo, and Arthur joining in.

    Re treating alkies and druggies, I add to OT's question, what about smokers?

    For Arthur: isn't smoking pot also a cancer risk?

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  29. Sure. But it's actually not as bad as tobacco...as far as vices go, you could do worse. When was the last time you heard about a couple of potheads knocking over a liquor store to support their habit?

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  30. Actually, it depends on your sources. Fox News says that marijuana and cancer have no relationship. NORML says maybe. And the most recent academic studies are a mixed bag, leaning toward maybe.

    Arthur's point is well taken. Anyone who has been around the pot scene, and you have even if you don't know it, knows that marijuana users are a very laid back bunch and the greatest danger is their falling asleep with a burning joint in their hand.

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  31. Huh? Knock over a liquor joint? Whoa dude, I just put the Dead on. Later, man.

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