Positive news
It was a pleasure to open the Journal on Jan. 16. The stories on the front page about the Rev. Russell May and Kenyetta Richmond ("Young Dreamers") were uplifting.
Thanks for giving us positive news about our community. The crime reports should not be the hot topics in our paper. You have promised in your editorial board statement to "celebrate" our community. I like it when you do that. Thank you.
WALTER N. BROWN
Winston-Salem
Dwindling prosperity
Is it possible to claim that the civil rights of a class of people in this country have been violated by means of the tax code? Specifically, I am referring to the 99 percent of the population, most of whom are wage earners, who have seen their prosperity dwindling for the past three decades compared to the 1 percent who are business tycoons and wealthy investors. While the color of their skin and their ethnicity may not be different from that of the 1 percent, their class has been established and perpetuated by their poverty:
- Their poverty perpetuated because they cannot afford education.
- Denied credit or charged exorbitant interest rates because of poverty.
- Taxed at unfavorable rates compared to the 1 percent, who are able to invest in stocks, bonds, businesses and gold.
- Unable to gain political favor because the 1 percent employs lobbyists and PACs.
No country can sustain a democracy with such a disparity of wealth.
The 99 percent, in addition to occupying Wall Street, should occupy Washington and file a class-action suit against Congress for not establishing more equitable taxes; and petition the Supreme Court to change the laws regarding lobbying and receiving PAC funds.
DAVID TURCK
Clemmons
Disgusting
It's disgusting what Republicans are doing to each other at a time when real change is needed in Washington. Disgusting the way mainstream and other media have become a tool for left-wing liberals.
Disgusting the uproar everywhere over what Marines did to those poor dead terrorists when nothing is heard of horrible acts "devout" Muslims commit on our soldiers, non-Muslims and even on their own people while they are still alive.
Disgusting that we keep losing Americans for people who berate our ideals, including some Americans.
Disgusting is the moral decay of our once proud nation where "In God We Trust" was taken seriously and patriotism was expected.
Disgusting that too many here and abroad keep expecting handouts without contributing anything to the "general welfare."
Disgusting when the Unknown President is our hero instead of the Unknown Soldier. And I'm sure some of your readers are disgusted with my outrage. And I find that disgusting.
BOB G. TANNEHILL
Winston-Salem
Recess appointment
The letter "Paying attention" (Jan. 16), about President Obama making the recess appointment of Richard Cordray to "head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau … while Congress was in session," sure was funny.
Last week, Rep. Diane Black, R-Tenn., and 71 other House Republicans introduced a non-binding resolution complaining about President Barack Obama's recess appointment.
"It's astounding to me that the president is claiming these are recess appointments and within his authority, when Congress was not in fact in recess," Black said. "These appointments are an affront to the Constitution. … I hope the House considers my resolution as soon as we return to Washington so we can send a message to President Obama."
"As soon as we return to Washington?" I thought they weren't in recess.
'Nuff said.
BILLY C. MEADOWS
Winston-Salem
Finish the Thought
Briefly complete the sentence below and send it to us at letters@wsjournal.com. We'll print some of the results in a few days. Only signed entries, please, no anonymous ones.
"Freedom of religion means …"
LTE #3...“A man's character may be learned from the adjectives which he habitually uses in conversation” Mark Twain
ReplyDeleteI think badend, bucks, nitwit, liberal, Democrat, Chola are all nouns Bobby. So I'm good.
Delete@Tim the Fired Volunteer:
DeleteDefinition of adjective: "a word or phrase naming an attribute, added to or grammatically related to a noun to modify or describe it."
So Bob's Mark Twain quote describes you to a "T"im, as evidenced by the passages below (safely and conveniently posted after all had gone to bed and in response to my 0929pm post of yesterday asking "You take no offense to me calling you any other name. Tim is a thorn on your side. Why?"
". . .Tim is not my name. That's the only reason. You can continue to be a buffoon if you wish. I really don't care. But just know I'm laughing at you, Rush, and Bobby everytime any one of you mentioned that name and me in the same sentence. All it does is confirm my belief that you all aren't the brightest bulbs on the tree."
. . . and at 0604am. . .
My routine is to make fools out of you pathetic, thick headed liberals, which isn't too hard."
and my name is not Bobby! but if you insist on acting like some patronizing former school teaching sociologist, be my guest.
DeleteAnyone whose routine is trying to make fools of others leads a very shallow life.
Delete"She's got bigger hoops than me, but that's because she's Mexican, you see us Puerto Ricans are not as trashy as those Mexicans." "Whoa......whoa ....whoa!
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAScnBsWxaA
@Tim the Fired Volunteer: Your attemp at insults has fallen flat. I'm neither Mexican nor Puerto Rican.
DeleteYou're a 'Chola' though, and that's all that matters.
DeleteO-M-G, THAT SOUNDS S-O-O-O ELEMENTARY SCHOOL YARD ! ! !
DeleteI like to keep it simple with you liberal simpletons.
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DeleteOk,Tim, I'll let you have the last word.
Delete. . . and it starts . . .
NOW ! ! !
By the way buffoon, my name is not Tim.
DeleteAnd to the other simpleton, Rush, my name is not George either. Jeeeeeez.......it just never stops.
DeleteZero, I know exactly who you are. You have no idea how many times you have given yourself away right here on this forum. Just had a chat yesterday with a person who knows many of your pathetic secrets. But don't worry, I won't reveal your real identity, because you are not worth it.
Delete*wink*wink*
DeleteTim the Fired Volunteer
DeleteMr. Tannehill, you don't disgust me -- I don't know you well enough for that. You do strike me as kind of a self-righteous blowhard though.
ReplyDeleteA Pew research study found that the liberal news media favored Obama 70% over McCain 8% in 2008. Only 6% of media reporters said they are conservatives.
DeleteThe main reason ANY Republican would lose in 2012 is because the liberal news media would be actively campaigning for Obama. It certainly wouldn't be based on Obama's presidential record, because that has been truly disgusting.
P.S. I'll bet John King is still cleaning out his CNN from the other night's tongue lashing by Gingrich.
DeleteArthur, are you attempting to insult my old friend Bob Tannehill? Do you get the feeling that he is disgusted about something or the other?
DeleteBob used to be a bright, laid back, civilized, funny guy. Then one morning he woke up and his brain had turned into watermelon flavored Jello.
Ever since then, he has been disgusted, except when he is outraged or aggrieved or incensed or infuriated...whatever.
He might be suffering from a touch of Obama derangement syndrome.
DeleteAs always, Zero just makes stuff up, or cherry picks...either way it ends up spelling B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.
DeleteThe Pew report that he references is 4 years old. It was talking about the percentage of negative vs positive coverage of the two candidates for president.
The 70% vs 8% does not refer to the media in general, but to a single cable network. The coverage by the media in general was much more even, but even Fox coverage tended to be more negative toward McCain, because McCain and his stupid running mate were simply a more negative presence on the earth.
The same report noted that the broadcast networks evening news was neutral, with the most even handed by far being PBS, as usual.
What do you think about that, George/Zero?
I think you're a nitwit, as usual.
DeleteNote that zero does not mind having told a lie and been caught at it.
Delete"Reality has a well-known liberal bias."
Delete-- Stephen Colbert
A liberal nitwit tells me I'm wrong. Where's the reference nitwit? I heard that from a very reliable source, and I don't mean from our resident forum 'Chola' where you apparently get some of your information.
DeleteROTFLMAO!!! Zero heard it from a "very reliable source" (Rush Limbaugh or one of Fox's trained liars?).
DeleteThe "reference" is the actual Pew report that Zero was supposedly citing. Is "dumbass" one word or two?
Where's the Pew report that proves me wrong, nitwit?
DeleteThese liberal simpletons are too much. They actually think I'm going to take their word for something. Jeez. It just never stops.
DeleteHey Zero, you said that you were quoting the Pew report, which, of course, you were not. You were quoting some jackass who is just like you, a barefoot, ignorant liar.
DeleteYou want to see the report, find it yourself.
The U.S. also ranks no. 1 in health, a function of high immunizations, clean water and the highest levels of gov't spending on healthcare.
ReplyDeleteForbes Magazine
We're No. 1, but Obama and the Democrats are doing their best to change that with 'Obamacare' hanging over our heads. Supreme Court to the rescue, I hope.
From the Forbes 10 happiest countries list in which the US ranked 10th behind 9. Netherlands, 8. Switzerland, 7. Finland, 6. Canada, 5. Sweden, 4. New Zealand, 3. Australia, 2. Denmark, and #1. Norway. The biggest reason we are #1 in spending so much on healthcare in the US is we pay 100-150% more for it. Aortic valve replacement in the US costs around 100k, it's 25-40k in other countries. The same meds that cost 6k/month in the US, cost a little over 2k in Canada. Healthcare is a capitalist dream because it's a "priceless" commodity.
DeleteSo just how will the new health care law change: "function of high immunizations, clean water and the highest levels of gov't spending on healthcare?"
Deleteclean water is a function of the EPA, something the R's want to eliminate.
people enrolled under the new health care act will be eligible to receive vaccines recommended by the ACIP without any cost-sharing requirements
10. United States
Delete"An excellent place to start a business, the U.S. also ranks no. 1 in health, a function of high immunizations, clean water and the highest levels of gov't spending on healthcare."
http://xfinity.comcast.net/slideshow/news-worldshappiestcountries/1/
you left out the first clause, Bucky.
DeleteI'd move to Sweden in a heartbeat, for a variety of reasons.
DeleteBTW, Sweden has one of the most generous social safety nets in the world, and they've passed through Europe's debt and current account problems with flying colors. Hmmmm...
The only area of health care that the US ranks #1 in is the cost per person, which is roughly double that of any other nation.
ReplyDelete“The U.S. health system is the most expensive in the world, but comparative analyses consistently show the United States underperforms relative to other countries on most dimensions of performance.
Among the seven nations studied—Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States—the U.S. ranks last overall, as it did in the 2007, 2006, and 2004.
Most troubling, the U.S. fails to achieve better health outcomes than the other countries, and as shown in the earlier editions, the U.S. is last on dimensions of access, patient safety, coordination, efficiency, and equity. The Netherlands ranks first, followed closely by the U.K. and Australia.”
Commonwealth Fund study, 2010
Good PM, folks!
ReplyDeleteRoscoe improves, is now eating and drinking, and playing and "attacking" Mrs. Stab. He is on Prednisone, which has turned the tide in his favor.
The Marines' peeing on the Taliban stiffs dishonored their country and Corps. They should be disciplined under the articles of war and under the Corps' rules. Appropriate diplomatic apologies should be extended. That said, I'm not going to worry too much about the Taliban's feelings. Car bombings and atrocities on women appear to be far worse crimes.
OT mentioned the useless R legislature earlier this week. I agree, but in pondering his suggestion that many should and may be voted out, I wonder if he wishes the to replace the current clown show with the corrupt show that preceded it, which had its share of Dem crooks and influence peddlers, with the rotten Easleys in the Governor's Mansion.
The LTE writer who noted the "return to Congress" ignored the fact that the Senate was in pro forma session. The Administration elected to redefine "pro forma" to install its goons in office.
President Obama rejected the Keystone pipeline, a mistake considering that relocating sources of oil to North American improves our security. Yes, the oil is of higher carbon content, which concerns me, but in the middle term, we need to reduce dependence on oil from people who don't like us. I note an angry comment from a union prez describing the people who oppose the pipeline as job killers. For once, I find common cause with a union official.
Word Watch: there is a Mercedes commercial that describes a model as having "less doors." Did the copy writer speak English as a second language. It's "fewer doors."
Glad to hear that Roscoe thrives. I'm sure that Mrs. Stab doesn't mind being attacked...after all, that is part of his cat job description.
DeleteAs to the legislature, under ideal conditions every one of them would be candidates for sainthood, but I will settle for anyone who will cast aside ideology, take a look at the situation and then do what is right for the citizens of NC. Honesty would be nice, too. I don't think that that is asking too much.
Word Watch: had a teacher in high school who said "If you can count it, it is fewer. If you can't count it, it is less." Considering the enormous cost of making a TV commercial, it is hard to imagine them letting a mistake like that slip through.
Obama Derangement Syndrome: similar to Bush Derangement Syndrome, where there is no logical reason for opposition to policies, the opposition being based solely on animus. Now, given my dislike of Willard Clinton, I might be subject to similar accusations, but I supported some of his policies, signing the welfare reform act, for example, though it took a warning from Dick Morris that he might lose the election if he didn't.
ReplyDeleteGringrich: he got what he deserved when King asked him re his personal life. Newtie was right about the press coddling Obama, but that is irrelevant to Gingrich's lack of character. We need role models for Presidents, a quality lacked by both Willard and GW Bush. At least Obama goes home to his family at night. I will not vote for Obama in November, but should Gingrich win the nomination, I will not vote for him, either.
I'm really happy to hear that Roscoe is doing better.
ReplyDeleteWord Watch: commercials frequent mangle modifiers, especially adverbs except for useless fillers like "really" and "very." But the sponsors' shows have also brutalized the language, with tiresome words and phrases like "I'm like . . . ", "yeah, right," "puh-leeze," etc. Entertainment isn't the only culprit, though. Business furnishes all sorts of mumbo-jumbo. When I worked for the otherwise excellent American Express, I dubbed the lingo AmexSpeak. "Moving/going forward," "think outside the box," "who is going to own this?" were a few of the standards. In my current employment, a favorite usage is "reach out to," instead of "call" or "contact."
ReplyDeleteThen there is GovernmentSpeak. In my teens, I found "meaningful dialogue" and "deplore" to be tiresome. Things haven't improved.
Sounds like Aon-speak.
DeleteMany thanks, Bob!
ReplyDeleteBob has a bit of a personal interest in Roscoe. He had met Roz prior to his illness, when Bob enlivened our Thanksgiving celebration by dining with us. Bob also transported Roscoe from vet to the kitty hospital when I could not leave work, for which Roscoe, Mrs. Stab, and I fervently thank him.
"Newtie was right about the press coddling Obama...."
DeleteNot even close. I am always astonished at what people's biases cause them to say. Try this:
http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/cr?src=prc-headline
I'd love to see Newt debate Obama. I'd love to see how that Affirmative Action IQ holds up to a real test.
DeleteAccording to the "Chicago Sun-Times, a company is planning to produce LCD Tv's in MN, to employ 100 people, starting in March. The company says higher wages in China and the costs of shipping, enable the company to be competitive. Other companies are considering relocating or starting new production here in the US. The relocation is called reshoring. It is to be hoped that the current administration will take note and stop its efforts to make business less productive and less competitive.
ReplyDeletePlease explain that last bit...apparently there is some top secret anti-business plot that I do not know about.
DeleteI would be interested in examples of negative coverage of President Obama. Then there is the matter of what simply isn't covered. going back a few years, the press did cover some of Willard's scandals, but studiously avoided noting the curious coincidence of Chinese political contributions and military secrets.
ReplyDeleteAS for Perry, what could have been positive? The guy spewed gaffe after gaffe.
You are looking at a Pew report, the most respected source there is. And there are plenty more just like them...at least one each month...I chose that one randomly.
DeleteThey're not talking about what Perry said, but what the press said about Perry.
As to Clinton, that is your obsession, not mine, and has nothing to do with current press coverage nor President Obama...called a red herring.
I'd like it if the media were more aggressive in calling out some of Romney's flat-out lies, but they tend to go with the "two sides" approach, which is an abdication of responsibility, IMO. Just my perspective.
DeleteConversely, it would 'nice' of the media if they would call out Obama on anything. It seems to be liberal media Affirmative Action with anything Obama.
DeleteNice race baiting, dude. I can see why you're a Gingrich supporter. He's your kind of people.
DeleteFoxNews showed some of the questions posed to Obama by the liberal media over the last few years, and it was absolutely ridiculous. You would have thought that they were interviewing a 13 year old girl.
DeleteStab,
DeletePleased to learn Roscoe is doing better. Nice that you have time to participate today. I think we all would agree that it is just not the same without you.
Wordly,
DeleteLet's don't get mushy about it. We do like to hear 'Stab's' middle of the road outlook on things. Additionally, it's always nice to have at least one other sane blogger in the forum, besides myself and you 'Wordly.' Don't you agree?
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
DeleteAlbert Einstein
I agree. I don't know why these liberal simpletons want to reelect Obama. We already know he's a terrible president.
DeleteInsanity: doing the same thing over and over again and getting a laugh.
DeleteLaSombra
Zero has such poor reading and comprehension skills that he is unable to detect the fact that Stab and I are probably only a few millimeters apart on the political scale most of the time. Political scientists would call it rational centrism, which allows for an occasional jog left or right, but pretty much keeps the meter in a fairly narrow range.
DeletePolitical scientists also understand Zero's position as being so far lost in the hysterical right that to him even President Eisenhower would seem "liberal". Some call it the "Joe McCarthy Syndrome".
Of course, Zero has no idea what the terms" liberal" and "conservative" actually mean.
Personally, he makes me think about an old worn out record on a turntable. The needle gets stuck and all you hear is "Pop...me...pop...me...pop...me..." ad infinitum.
. . . and ad nauseum.
DeleteI feel like Barry Bonds at Little League practice in here with you simpletons trying to challenge me.
DeleteOT, my reference to press reticence re Clinton's scandals, particularly our loss of secrets, is cited to note a historical trend.
ReplyDeleteAs for the Administration's support of unproductive efforts, I cite the conversion of the NLRB into a branch office of the AFL-CIO and Change to Win. I note the spurious lawsuit against Boeing, and the effort to allow unions to organize employees without representation elections. Elsewhere, things are a bit rosier, especially if you are Jeff Immelt of GE, so I cannot say the Admin is unreservedly anti-business. If you pay to play . . . what was all that nonsense in 2008 about "Change"?
How did I know it would be about unions? As union membership continues to shrink to insignificant levels in the USA, the economy is getting better, bit by bit, and neither has anything to do with the other.
DeleteBTW, the European nations most friendly to unions, such as Germany, Sweden and Switzerland, are performing economically well above the US level. Of course, these same countries are also among the most "socialist" in the western world and have an excellent balance of wealth, which is critical to general economic performance.
If the Tea Party and other crybabies would get out of the way, we might start to catch up. Since Obama is going to run against Congress much more than against Romney, they might just be forced out of the way.
The annual Kiplinger forecast for 2012 is conservative and cautious, but shows an expectation of continued improvement:
Kiplinger
Last updated: December 30, 2011
The U.S. economy will grow about 2.3% in 2012, a bit faster than the 1.8% pace in 2011.
Consumers are finally loosening the purse strings after four years of higher savings to restore wealth lost in the housing crash and 2008 stock market drop. Even those with sizable debts are willing to dip into savings to buy essentials, including big-ticket items such as cars when their clunkers reach the end of the road.
Moreover, job creation is picking up, and businesses are willing to invest in new equipment to expand production after several years of slowly rising production to work off spare capacity. Fears of a severe financial crisis in Europe are receding. U.S. exports to Europe will get trimmed but not slashed as the recession there continues to shape up as mild and not severe. Finally, housing will be a small plus to the economy after subtracting from growth the past few years.
Even retail, which has taken much of the worst of the Cheney/Bush recession, is improving:
The nation's largest retail trade group expects a solid 3.4 percent increase in sales this year, below last year's 4.7 percent increase as job woes weigh on shoppers.
Sales should reach $2.53 trillion in 2012, up from last year's $2.45 trillion, boosted in part by higher prices across all goods, according to a report Monday from the National Retail Federation.
The 3.4 percent bump would outpace the 10-year annual average increase of almost 3.1 percent and would mark a third consecutive year of recovery for consumer spending. Sales slumped 3.5 percent in 2009 with the nation still deep in recession.
All this sounds like just what you would expect from an anti-business administration.
Then there is the Keystone decision, pandering to the kneejerk left people who are as vociferous and unreasoned as those with ODS.
ReplyDeleteHuge terrible decision on Obama's part. Of course we've almost gotten accustomed to his pathetic, decision making process.
DeleteHe probably cost the country thousands of jobs, and killed any chance of our country making a fast economic recovery.
Good ol' Gloom and Doom Tim.
DeleteBTW, you can have the last word here, too.
Chola, what are you doing down here with the adults?
DeleteThe bigger question, Zero, would be what are you doing among human beings?
DeleteHey Rush, you and Chola make a good pair. You're both on the same intellectual level. Hee Hee you gotta love it.
DeleteThank you, Wordly, that is most kind. Mrs. Stab gave me an iPad for Xmas, which makes it a bit more convenient to chime in. BTW, if you go to my FB page, you can find a pic of me and Mrs. Stab from last Xmas. I am holding Roscoe in that pic. He is not looking as if he liked the pose.
ReplyDeleteWith an eye to scarce time, I ordered a CD series of lectures re climate change, listen in my car. I'm trying to make best use of time. Listening to those CD's reminds me that this critical issue has dropped off the radar, thanks in part to the R's. But both parties are guilty of ignoring the problem, along with energy issues, and the deteriorating infrastructure.
Newt Gingrich wins South Carolina. I hope CNN's John King asks some more questions.
ReplyDeleteStolen from twitter on Friday:
DeleteFrom Newt's victory speech Sat. night: "..special thanks to Juan Williams and John King, without whom this race would be over..."
greenfield64 Jeff Greenfield
I agree....John King reminds me of Rush and his girlfriend Chola trying to take me on.
DeleteBy the way, to whom it may concern: My name is not Tim/George Britton. I know you liberals enjoy buffoonery, but I think it's best to keep it to a bare minimum.
ReplyDeleteYes, Newt's victory, if confirmed, is really something to celebrate.
DeleteThe lying, philandering Newty defeats the waffle king Romney. One has to wonder if the GOP has been penetrated by Al Qaeda agents.
And I can tell you who is celebrating the most...the National Democratic Party.
DeleteYou got that right.
Delete"There is great chaos under heaven -- the situation is excellent."
Delete-- Mao Zedong
Let's see if that Affirmation Action IQ holds up in a debate with Newt.
DeleteStab, I did visit your site but did not see Roscoe around. Of course, it is common knowledge in the cat world that Satan invented cameras to steal your soul, so you can understand why Roscoe might be uncomfortable.
ReplyDeleteI did see a couple of pix of some old man in my age range posing with his gorgeous daughter. Where does she go to college? What's her major? Is she a cheerleader?
It's there. I think he was tagged in one of Susan's photos with the cat since I couldn't like it.
DeleteBTW I sent you friend request.
OT, course it's about unions. The Obama administration is trying to reverse the trend away from unionization in spite of the fact that unions reduce productivity, which reduces competitiveness in a very competitive enviroment, to say nothing of trampling employees' rights. The lawsuit against Boeing was thoroughly anti-business, as is the Keystone rejection. I beg an explanation of how you can rail at the intrusion of the R dolts in Raleigh into personal privacy but cheerfully ignore the trampling of rights by allowing collectivization without unqualiified consent, freedom of choice, you know.
ReplyDeleteYes, things are getting better slowly, as people pay down debts, and scrap rates for commodity items like cars demand that replacement rates increase. Why impede things by fostering a decrease in productivity.
As for being inconsequential, unions will pour in > 100MM to try to keep their catspaw in the WH. If in your business success, you consider $100MM inconsequential, my compliments to you. I don't.
OT, you can find the pix of Susan, Roscoe, and me in my profile pix. Susan sends greetings. In the photos section, you will also see a pic of a geezer with a young lady in a red prom dress. That is Miss Stepstab and her dad. He is a research biochemist and prof for WFU/BMC. My alleged daughter was indeed a cheerleader as was her daughter. Susan graduated from WCU. Miss SS has been accepted at Belmont U In Nashville, awaits response from several others.
ReplyDeletePlease send a friend request. i cannot find you. Note to Bucky: I do not make friends based on politics.
I think Newt just called Rush/nitwit a anti-religious bigot. Sounds like he knows him well.
DeleteI think it's funny that the liberal bigots are being exposed for what they are and what they have called conservatives for so many years.
Bigots!
Newt: Obama is so weak, that he makes Jimmy Carter look strong.
DeleteYiiiiiiiiiiiikes...the slams are a rockin tonight!
Sorry, still couldn't find it. I am not FaceBook savvy...only joined because you need it to visit some other sites, which makes no sense to me. As far as I know, I have never visited my own FaceBook page...probably couldn't find it.
DeleteI do know a little about WCU:
1. I recall an extraordinary basketball player from Asheville named Henry Logan. In, I think, 1964, he enrolled at WCU, thus becoming the first black basketball player at a previously all white college in the South.
I remember that he scored 60 points in one game and led the nation in scoring one year.
2. I remember also that while I was teaching graduate students in the frozen North, my university did some sort of joint project with WCU. I was not involved directly in the project, merely as a reviewer of certain psychology related aspects, but I do recall that when I asked "why WCU" I was told by those who know that WCU probably had the best teacher education course in the region, so your "daughter" must have gotten an excellent education there.
Obviously, she was there too late to cheer for Henry Logan, though.
Stab - I also noted that you graduated from Guilford College in 1974. My, my.
DeleteMy best friend, the walking encyclopedia of local history at the Central Library, had many adventures after high school before arriving at Guilford, fresh from Viet Nam, in 1970. He had already been expelled from two other colleges, but found a home among the Quakers and graduated with honors in three years.
His eligibility to play college basketball had expired, but he was a sometime practice dummy for the 1973 NAIA National Championship team, which included a remarkable cast of characters, four of whom got at least a look in the NBA (as he would remind us, no other NC college team can say that), and three of whom played in the NBA. I have met most of them, including M.L. Carr, who helped win a couple of NBA titles with the Boston Celtics and later coached the Celtics, and Lloyd (World's Best) Free, one of the most outrageous gunners in basketball history. I believe that Lloyd had his name legally changed to match his nickname, so you can call him simply "World's Best".
I also graduated from a Quaker College, Haverford, in PA. What my friend and I liked the most about the Quaker schools was that nobody ever got elected President of the US by a 5-4 vote in the Quaker world, because all decisions are made by consensus. It is an extraordinarily difficult decision making process, but in the end, the decisions are wiser and less prone to sabotage by those losing in a democratic vote.
I hope that among the schools that Miss SS is waiting to hear from, Guilford or Haverford or Swarthmore, just down the street from Haverford, might be among them. Great, great schools all.
I'll post a pic of Roscoe when I'm on a regular computer. Susan was in kindergarten when Mr. Logan matriculated, but would have indeed cheered him on.
DeleteInteresting re your best friend. Is that the rightly noted historian Fam? I remember ML Carr and the flamboyant Lloyd Free, also Jerry Crocker, who played in the ABA for a time.
I considered Haverford, went to Wofford, transferred to Guilford, much to the relief of Wofford and Spartanburg. Who says youth is wasted on the young?
I just realized that if I do not make this addition, I will be subject to punishment from certain female friends of mine.
DeleteHaving mentioned Guilford, Haverford and Swarthmore, I left out Bryn Mawr, yet another Quaker school just a few blocks from Haverford.
Bryn Mawr is a highly selective girl's school which is a part of the original "Seven Sisters" (Mount Holyoke, Vassar, Wellesley, Smith, Radcliffe, Barnard and BrynMawr), the female equivalent of the Ivy League.
Bryn Mawr (Welsh: "high hill"), is also a part of the tri-college consortium which includes Haverford and Swarthmore. Any student registered at any of the three colleges can attend classes at any of the others. When I was a student at Haverford, I took some classes at Bryn Mawr with the idea of meeting some girls…instead I found a whole new world that I knew nothing about.
And I also should add the 7th oldest college in the US, Brown University in Providence, RI, the first American college to admit students regardless of religious affiliation. Brown has a very close relationship with the aforementioned Quaker colleges. Several of my Haverford classmates went on to Brown to grad school. Guilford graduates also often choose Brown for grad school. I spent a deliriously happy two years there as a visiting professor. Great school, in some ways the best in the Ivy League.
Miss SS considered Brown, along with Harvard, Yale, and Duke. Mom graduated from Wellesley.
DeleteYes, I am happy to say that my friend is Fam, one of the weirdest people I have ever known. We grew up together in Ardmore, but we didn't really like each other because he was a wannabe jock and I was happily just a nerd.
DeleteAs it turned out, I had this thing for being a Rhodes Scholar, which had a required athletic component, so I worked my squatty butt off to become a basketball player (of very limited ability, but they love you when you are always willing to pass the ball) and he and I ended up on the varsity team in high school. Since he also had some limited abilities (way too skinny), we soon became allies, and then fast friends.
We now live just a block apart in the Arts District, but deliberately limit our time together, because our discussions just get too intense, especially when we add two women, both of whom are grads of Seven Sister schools. Too much fun is probably not good for you.
In my early childhood, we lived on Revere Rd, in Ardmore. I enjoyed being a kid there. Still do biz at Andrews Phmcy, even though I live in Sherwood Plaza area.
DeleteWow! Of course, Revere Road did not exist when we were kids. We watched the opening of Cherokee Lane, and Fam and I have walked that area several times in recent years because his father built some of the first houses there. That area developed rapidly after that.
DeleteMyers Garage was at the corner of Cherokee and Ebert Street...a guy that everybody called "Brock" was the mechanic there...he was really good at doing high performance engines and so did a lot of work for the ATF guys who chased bootleggers. What they didn't realize is that he also did engine work for the bootleggers. He founded the auto mechanics program at Forsyth Tech, one of the best anywhere. The cinder block building is still there...last time I passed by somebody was using it to repair lawnmowers.
Right across Ebert Street was the farm of Mr. Adams...his nice brick house is still there as well. he had a lot of Guinea hens, which would get out onto Ebert Street and stop traffic until they were rounded up.
Fam's grandfather's farm occupied the area where the church is now where Boone Trail begins, extending back to the garage and well back beyond the creek behind the church. Nothing is left of that now.
The land on which Revere Road was developed was the farm of, I believe, George Lentz, who was the mayor of W-S until he lost to Marshall Kurfees when we were about 6 years old. We often saw Mayor Lentz riding a big white horse out there on weekends. A very nice man.
My parents often bought strawberries from Fam's grandfather, whose strawberry field was where that church and its parking lot are now.
If you went farther out Ebert Street,the Ebert farm was at what is now Ebert and Silas Creek. The house and barn are still there and whoever owns the place has some goats.
Farther out you came to Philcon (sp?) Stables, where city people kept their horses and others could go and rent a horse to ride. Even farther out was the peach orchard...I think it was called Snyders...where everybody went to buy fresh peaches.
Miss Stepstab awaits replies from WFU, Vanderbilt, Vassar, and UNC. She also applied to Stanford, but a1350 SAT, 3.8 average, and many extracurricular activities were insufficient for acceptance. She considered UCLA, which I would have loved to have taken her to tour, being a former L.A. resident.
ReplyDeleteToo funny. When I graduated from HS, a 1350 would have been an automatic qualifier at almost any college in the country. Stanford is a great school, with a fabulous campus. I mentioned recently a discovery that I had made, that Herbert Hoover was the first student to sleep in a Stanford dorm room, c. 1895.
DeleteBut Miss SS seems to have chosen an excellent array of schools. Despite the feminist revolution in America, there are still many hurdles for women to overcome. Because of that, I am a big booster of girls colleges, including our own local and excellent Salem. In this case, I am rooting for Vassar, even though it is now coed.
I forgot, she also applied to Berkeley.
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